It took fewer than three hours (including lunch), the jury found punitive damages as well as compensatory. Trump walking out in the middle of the closing arguments may have pissed some of them off.
After Trump stormed out, Roberta Kaplan told the jury, “he thinks with his wealth and power he can treat Ms. Carroll how he wants and will suffer no consequences.”
To explain what happened here, this was the second phase of her lawsuit. That he had defamed her was decided in the previous trial, which he didn’t even bother to attend. Now he’s complaining about not being able to raise the defenses he raised in the first trial (but didn’t testify), but the question for this phase was narrow. The jury had to answer two questions: 1. Is she entitled to more than nominal damages? 2. If so how much (for repair of reputation)? Then they had to decide whether he acted maliciously, and determine the amount of punitive damages.
She had been awarded 5 million in the first trial, but then he kept on defaming her and this verdict is intended to discourage him from future defamation. If he continues to defame her, he may end up with an even larger check to sign.
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January 26, 2024 at 4:04 pm
Mitch
The Humboldt pseudo-intellectual society has determined that 65 is 5 x 13.
65 x 13 is 845, at least in my opinion. trumpers may differ, and are totally entitled to their own opinions; I’m sure they think I use fake math. $845 million would be close enough to a billion that let’s just call it that.
I hope trump continues defaming E. Jean. Everyone should have a billion.
January 26, 2024 at 4:09 pm
humboldturtle
This is a real victory for women in general and rape survivors in particular. Good for society, too. It turns a terrible role model into a useful example for others. Can the judge still penalize him or his attorneys for contempt during the trial?
January 26, 2024 at 4:45 pm
Anonymous
She’s 80 years old. Likely won’t live long enough to see a dime….
January 26, 2024 at 5:09 pm
Eric Kirk
Probably won’t bother at this point.
But a lien against Trump Tower is a real possibility.
January 26, 2024 at 9:17 pm
John
Trump deserved to lose but $83 million is insane.
The jury demeaned themselves by showing vengeance & politics was their motive and not justice.
January 26, 2024 at 11:34 pm
Eric Kirk
John – do you have any evidence as to their politics? All 24 of them in both juries are politically biased?
Well then Trump’s team did a very lame job in jury selection!
Punitive damages are supposed to hurt, and they take your wealth into consideration. You or I wouldn’t be hit with that much because it’s not something we could pay. But he continues to defame her, and these damages are intended to ensure that he stop. If they don’t do the trick, then he will be hit with even higher damages next time – until he stops.
It’s up to him.
January 27, 2024 at 5:41 am
Henchman Of Justice
Reads like EK, a jew and a clueless tortoise all ascribe to the Netherland’s methods for tickets too, where a speeding ticket is not a flat fine, but based on wealth…
…so, EK in his hot pink micro van (cool by the way) is ticketed for 10 mph in a school zone… while Trump did the same thing…
… in EK’s fantasia, EK pays 83 million less than Trump…
…That is all ya need to know about EK’s, the jew and tortoises TDS…
January 27, 2024 at 6:03 am
Henchman Of Justice
So this trial only hinges on 1 thing only, and so far, no evidence of Trump raping her… the defamation case is ALL BUILT UPON AN UNPROVEN ALLEGATION OF RAPE… Proof is not a jury decision…
…and here’s the dish… was this woman ever sexually attractive because Trump does not come across as a guy who up and fucks any ol’ hag… so what the fuck was she all about long ago so much so that she only waited until Trump became a poitical rose thorn… to cry wolf later🤷♂️? It is like “rape” all-of-a-sudden became “meaningful”, whereas prior,
CARROLL DID NOT GIVE A FLYING TWO CENT FUCK!
January 27, 2024 at 6:30 am
Henchman Of Justice
Defamation happens daily; and yet, when approached with a request to litigate, attorneys mostly stay away unless it is a high profile case…
…THE INJUSTICE SYSTEM IS LEVERAGED ON PROFILE LEVEL, WEALTH STATUS… not any actual laws violated…
January 27, 2024 at 7:20 am
Henchman Of Justice
nearly half a billion in taxes to pay for a private for profit businesse’s venture along Humboldt County coastline waters…
… did the Board Of Supervisors broker a good deal…NOPE!
The feds and California are picking economic business winners…all ya have to do is use the word “green” or “climate”…
…fortunes are being made by the few sell-outs in the energy sector, no big surprise there…
…as your elected county supervisor, I would’ve only supported off-shore wind project if 2 things were locked in forever:
A) Natural disaster proofed – no tsunami or earthquake or storm shall destabilize the infrastructure to a degree of rebuilding due to destruction
B) free residential electricity up to a median $ level commensurate with monthly average billings, such that, as an example, the first $100 is free… our coastline waters, our back yard sts, our power generation, our profits, our taxes…
I do not believe in, or go for, subsidizing private venture capitalism with public tax dollars!
As it is, taxpayers should own the operation, and likely will even though that is worse, but only after the privateers take their money, pocket it and run away when there is no real profit or free money taxes any longer available to swindle…
…as structured, I hope a mega disaster hits the project right before going online… this could help educate humans in common sense to learn how to be experts as a steward of land before purging the ocean with grandiose mistakes!
Then, the souring economic gravitational body slam,
[Energy developer delivers major blow to blue state’s climate agenda by canceling offshore wind contracts
‘These projects are unaffordable, they are ridiculous,’ energy expert tells Fox News Digital]
this poor dude wannabe a billionaire thought the Earth rotated in opposite direction yielding more onshore winds… but suffice to say, the dude crapped out in Vegas!
January 27, 2024 at 7:54 am
Henchman Of Justice
The reason why housing is a shortage is because, believe it or not, government still uses land as a bait and switch to sucker people into project processes that which only allow government to pull faces as traitors… ya know, the arsonist who plays policy wonk administrator, fire insurance policy adjuster and fire marshal…an all in 1 kit n caboodle trap…
January 27, 2024 at 7:59 am
Henchman Of Justice
Thank You American Voters for proving me correctomundo for supporting Hamas and other so-called counter-terrorist operations… against AMERICAN INTERESTS!
USA is a disease of a country now, so eat shit all wretched, lying ass 2 Party System registered voting fuckers!!
January 27, 2024 at 8:06 am
Henchman Of Justice
https://lostcoastoutpost.com/2024/jan/26/county-supervisors-deny-appeal-mckinleyville-subdi/
Peggy V. wondered why Henchy dropped out of the socialite diocese… went rogue… welp, Humboldt County is not an ideal place to raise a family on hope, opportunity, dreams, etc… unless you are part of the archbishop guild or another type of commensurate organization of secretive peoples…like a free mason piece of shit!
January 28, 2024 at 7:49 am
humboldturtle
Sore loser much?
January 28, 2024 at 9:01 am
Henchman Of Justice
Wait for when HT gets dementia, then government suppoeters get some gal to write a life memoir that includes an allegation that HT raped her…
…but poor ole decrepit dipshit HT can’t remember jack, so HT is 100% GUILTY AS FUCK!
January 28, 2024 at 12:56 pm
Anonymous
Eric , first of all all 24 don’t have to be Democrats. In a civil trial I believe only a majority of the jurors can decide on damages.
Second, you & both know a more sober minded judge will reduce the amount awarded her on Trump’s appeal.
January 28, 2024 at 12:59 pm
John
Eric, first of all you know the amount of damages awarded can be decided by a simple majority. It does not have to be unanimous.
Second you & both know a more sober minded judge will reduce the amount of the verdict upon Trump’s appeal.
January 28, 2024 at 2:07 pm
Eric Kirk
John and anonymous, both jury decisions were unanimous.
And if punitive damages don’t hurt Trump, then they are pointless. They have to be significant enough to get his attention. I don’t know how it works in federal court, but in California a jury takes the defendant’s wealth into consideration to determine punitive/exemplary damages. The 5 million dollar verdict didn’t get his attention. Will this one? We’ll find out.
I’m not sure an appellate court has the jurisdiction to reduce the amount. It can only set aside a factual finding on an “abuse of discretion” at which point the appellate court will have to determine that a lower judgment would be just as effective in deterring further defamation from Trump. That is the sole question.
And let’s be clear, if he continues to defame her, the next judgment could be even larger.
The jury was selected by both sides. If they are all militant Democrats, then Trump’s team really dropped the ball.
As I said before, Mitch McConnell can’t protect him anymore. He’s dealing with people who don’t care about his sense of entitlement. For his sake, I hope he’s learned this before getting in front of a criminal jury. And I actually mean that.