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I actually have mixed feelings about these measures. I’m all for equal time for groups like War Resisters League or the Central Committee for Conscientious Objectors. I’m also for placing some restrictions on recruiting tactics, including strict controls on the deliberate lying which has been reported in the media. I would also support the barring of any recruiters who are bound by quotas, which leads to an ACORN type situation. But I think the kids should be trusted to take in information and make up their own minds, and I don’t really like absolute bans in any form. And though I have opposed (or would have opposed had I been alive) all but a handful of U.S. military actions, I do believe we need a military and the military does have to recruit to get participants.
Still, I support the spirit in which the measures are made, and I believe that measures like this send important messages to national government about military policy. And the campaigns by themselves educate the teens about the “highly sophisticated and well-funded efforts” being made, so that they can make informed decisions. The proponents’ site makes a very good case against some of the recruiting tactics and the need to protect kids from them.
But as the measure proponents note, “as a society” we don’t trust teenagers’ judgment for much of anything. This is where I disagree with the proponents. I don’t believe we should feed into that lack of faith. Kids very often rise to our expectations, and the answer should be to maximize the information and emphasize critical thinking in the curriculum. Otherwise, the kids are just as likely to fall prey to less than ethical recruiting tactics off campus where the measures don’t protect them.
I don’t know how I’d vote on measures F and J. I’d probably vote for them, with misgivings.
The proponents’ website is Stop Recruiting Kids.
An email was sent out by a Florida GOP county chair. Not only are black people voting, but professors and students too!
THE THREAT:HERE IN TEMPLE TERRACE, FL OUR REPUBLICAN HQ IS ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM OUR LIBRARY, WHICH IS AN EARLY VOTING SITE.
I SEE CARLOADS OF BLACK OBAMA SUPPORTERS COMING FROM THE INNER CITY TO CAST THEIR VOTES FOR OBAMA. THIS IS THEIR CHANCE TO GET A BLACK PRESIDENT AND THEY SEEM TO CARE LITTLE THAT HE IS AT MINIMUM, SOCIALIST, AND PROBABLY MARXIST IN HIS CORE BELIEFS. AFTER ALL, HE IS BLACK–NO EXPERIENCE OR ACCOMPLISHMENTS–BUT HE IS BLACK.
I ALSO SEE YOUNG COLLEGE STUDENTS AND THEIR PROFESSORS FROM USF PARKING THEIR CARS WITH THE PROMINENT ‘OBAMA’ BUMPER STICKERS. THE STUDENTS ARE ENTHUSIASTIC TO BE VOTING IN A HISTORIC ELECTION WHERE THERE MAY BE THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT.
THE COLLEGE PROFESSORS, PARTICULARLY IN THE SOCIAL SCIENCES, FOR THE MOST PART HAVE LITTLE OR NO EXPERIENCE IN THE WORK-A-DAY WORLD.
THEIR LIFE EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN MOSTLY ACADEMIC UNDER THE TUTELAGE OF LIBERAL COLLEGE PROFESSORS. FOR THEM, A LITTLE SOCIALISM AND ANTI-AMERICANISM IS A GOOD THING. AFTER ALL, IF TERRORISTS ATTACK US, WE MUST HAVE DONE SOMETHING TO PROVOKE THEM.
YOU AND I UNDERSTAND THE DANGERS THE POTENTIAL OBAMA PRESIDENCY PRESENTS TO OUR WAY OF LIFE. THE SUPPRESSION OF FREE SPEECH, INTRODUCING UNION INTIMIDATION IN THE WORKPLACE, INCREASED DANGERS TO OUR NATION BY TERRORISTS, CUTTING OUR DEFENSE BUDGET BY 25%, TURNING OUR TAX SYSTEM INTO A NATIONAL WELFARE SYSTEM AND ECONOMIC POLICIES THAT COULD DRIVE US INTO A DEPRESSION.
There’s more through the link. The content is creepy enough, but the all-caps thing is even worse.
And just in case you missed it, Obama is black!
Sunday, Nov 2
2 to 6
Fortuna Veterans Hall
1426 Main Street
Musicians: Sue Moon, Susan Anderson and Friends; Mary Jo Casasanta; and the ClifTones will play from 2-5
Food: BBQ’d Local Organic Burgers, Polish Dogs & Chicken filets plus Chili, Beer, Wine, Soft drinks & Cider
All food and art proceeds benefit Clendenen For Supervisor
FPPC # 1302031
You can see my map here, then you can create your own.
I’m going to be optimistic and predict a North Carolina and Missouri win. I may change my mind by Sunday. I just can’t believe Obama will take Indiana, Georgia, or any of the plains states.
Addendum: Obama is indeed making a play for Arizona. How serious of a play remains to be seen.
And reader Matt Owen emailed the following thoughts about the electoral college for your consideration.
Eric – If my math is correct, under our present electoral college system a presidential candidate would only have to barely win 11 states to become president.That candidate could actually lose 39 states badly and lose the majority vote of the nation and yet still be president as long as they concentrated all their efforts on the following states:California – 55Texas – 34New York – 31Florida – 27Pennsylvania – 21Illinois – 21
Ohio – 20Michigan – 17New Jersey – 15North Carolina – 15New Jersey – 15TOTAL: 271 Electoral College VotesThis is probably the main reason the Democrats lost the 2000 and 2004 election. Well that and Ralph Nader.The Dems get the coasts. The Repubs get the heartland. Gotta win those key swing states.
Definitely the Republicans have held an edge under the system in other elections. The question is whether this election marks a realignment.
Second addendum: Pew four years ago, and Pew today.
Third addendum: For those worried about rumors of Obama leads dwindling, you need to read this and chill out.
And if you’re interested in the history of electoral college results, this site has the maps dating back to the first election in 1789. Quiz – how many presidential elections have gone to someone with fewer votes than his opponent?
Fourth addendum: Some early voting data.
The latest Field Poll has Prop 8 down to 44 percent yes, with 49 percent no, according to a commenter on fivethirtyeight. The poll hasn’t been released yet, but the “No” campaign hints that it’s good news for them, perhaps confirming the fivethirtyeight post.
And Samuel Jackson joins the opposition to Proposition 8.
If Prop 8 goes down, you may thank/blame Jerry Brown.
It’s spilling out of virtual territory and into the campaign. Brad Dacus of the Pacific Justice Institute (no relationship to the Pacific Legal Foundation which backed the lawsuit against Measure T) is basically comparing homosexuals to Hitler.
“There was another time in history when people, when the bell tolled. And the question was whether or not they were going to hear it. The time was during Nazi Germany with Adolf Hitler. You see he brought crowds of clergy together to assure them that he was going to look after the church.
And one of the members, bold and courageous, Reverend Niemand (sp?) made his way to the front and (inaudible) said “Hitler, we are not concerned about the church. Jesus Christ will take care of the church.
We are concerned about the soul of Germany.” Embarrassed and chagrined, his peers quickly shuffled him to the back.
And as they did Adolf Hitler said, “The soul of Germany, you can leave that to me.” And they did, and because they did bombs did not only fall upon the nation of Germany, but also upon the church and their testimony to this very day.
Let us not make that mistake folks. Let us hear the bell! Vote on Proposition 8!”
It’s catchy. The Republicans of Monterey County sent out an email comparing Obama to Hitler. I wonder if they’ve been consulting with the Republican Party of Pennsylvania who compared a vote for Obama to the Holocaust.
Citing abuse from commercial growers. From the Redding Record:
Citing public safety issues, the Trinity County Board of Supervisors on Tuesday repealed a year-old ordinance that allowed medical marijuana users to exceed state limits on how much marijuana residents could grow and keep.
After a public hearing at the Veterans Hall in Weaverville, the board voted unanimously to repeal the ordinance that was passed last fall.
“What we adopted last year ruined the fabric of the county,” said Supervisor Wendy Reiss, who voted for the ordinance last year.
I’ve said this before, but I strongly suggest that medical marijuana advocates find some way to address rather than dismiss all of these concerns. That’s a backlash now in two of the “emerald triangle” counties. According to the article, most of the speakers supported the repeal.
There’s a great photo through the link.
Message: Do not leave the polling place until you are sure about your vote.
Also, do not let them relegate you to a provisional ballot if they have questions about your registration. Demand a real ballot and don’t take “no” for an answer.
Addendum: Colorado voting machine impounded.
It actually hasn’t gone too badly for signs this time around. A few Redway signs have graffiti. I’ve had to replace a couple of signs. I’ve given up on a sign location up Alderpoint Road which was placed on a friend’s property. For some reason the signs just keep disappearing. Must be what is referred to on Star Trek as a “quantum event phenomenon.”
But Dennis Huber reports that his 4 by 8 Clif sign in Briceland was torn down this morning, with considerable effort as it had been supported by wooden beams. The sign is back up. However, the perpetrators succeeded in rendering the sign inoperable for hours, losing exposure opportunity for untold numbers of voters. Maybe it made the difference.
Still, it hasn’t reached the levels of last spring when people removed Clif and Estelle signs up and down Briceland Road and elsewhere. And it’s nowhere near the Prop 8 sign wars to our north.
Off forum an Estelle supporter asked me to “put up or shut up” about people on Estelle’s endorsement list who are no longer supporting her. Look, one such individual doesn’t want to make a production, and I don’t know if the others want to be public about it either. I did point out in a post last spring that George Munroe was on both Estelle’s list and Clif’s. Well, he has a letter in the local papers today in support of Clif.
It’s not a huge deal. There may very well be people on Clif’s list who have changed their minds. Unless the individuals inform the campaign, there’s no way to know short of calling everybody on the list. Maybe that would be a good idea, but not every campaign raises 150 grand in a month and has legions of volunteers crossing state lines to pitch for him/her. I would assume that Johanna, who was not a candidate in June technically speaking, probably started fresh. Anyway, it happens when you have two stages of an election. But I simply mentioned the fact that I recognized two (and I’ve since been informed of a couple more) names of individuals who are now supporting Clif.
Some of you watching the world series might have noted Clif’s advertisements. Apparently a national advertiser cancelled and Clif’s campaign was able to bag the spots for a bargain price. And he gets free spots for games exceeding four. The Phillies are ahead, so Clif’s supporters now have incentive to root for the underdog Devil Rays.
Those of you who picked up the local papers today know that all three campaigns invested in large ads taking up good portions of the pages. Honestly, I think Estelle’s black and white piece looks the best of the three. But don’t trust my tastes as a barometer of anything. For me Firefly was not only the best written science fiction series in television history, but probably in the top five series of any genre. But it couldn’t get the ratings to make it through half a season.
Addendum: For the cute anecdote file = recently Clif was walking neighborhoods and he came to a home where a child answered. The kid’s eyes widened and he yelled to his mother, “Mom, Pick Clif is here!”
Second addendum: Lots and lots and lots of letters to the Redwood Times yesterday about Estelle, Clif, and even a couple for Johanna. Also hospital board letters, and Prop 8 opposition letters including this one brilliantly crafted by a local blogger.