Similar to his statement last week, except that he added Islamaphobia and racism probably in response to violence from counter-protesters at UCLA. He responded to two questions on his way out.
“Have the demonstrations affected your policies?”
“No.”
“Have you changed your mind about sending in the National Guard?”
“No.”
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May 2, 2024 at 9:34 am
Mitch
I like Biden more and more. I doubt America deserves him.
May 2, 2024 at 10:07 am
Just Trollin
The only thing missing was how he plans to address the unlawful acts. What a pussy……
May 2, 2024 at 10:17 am
John
As usual, he was all rhetoric and short on substance.
May 2, 2024 at 10:20 am
Mitch
One job of the President is to set a tone. If you want to call that “all rhetoric,” that’s your right. Seems to me it’s an attempt at uniting a country that is in the process of tearing itself apart.
May 2, 2024 at 3:07 pm
Jon Yalcinkaya
embedded tweet…
Tweet:
I wouldn’t ask anyone to hold the line, not with what it costs them, but I will say thank you and bless you.
May 2, 2024 at 4:16 pm
Jon Yalcinkaya
May 2, 2024 at 4:25 pm
Jon Yalcinkaya
Many of the African American women I follow on Twitter are anything but leftists. Imani Gandy is one.
May 2, 2024 at 4:29 pm
Jon Yalcinkaya
Nikole Hannah-Jones of the 1619 Project is another.
May 2, 2024 at 4:49 pm
Eric Kirk
I just don’t recall Freedom Riders blocking people from entry to a university for wearing a Star of David.
May 2, 2024 at 5:03 pm
Jon Yalcinkaya
Amazing Eric.
https://x.com/JeffreyASachs/status/1785105007370543507
If TikTok was a thing back the I’m sure there would be plenty of racists trying to take advantage. Also, those students failed but he was also a known entity on campus, to say he was blocked because of the Star of David, well you can’t know that.
But that’s the type of line that leads to the liberal myopia of the reason for these protests, the type of myopia where leaders in Congress for both parties invite Netanyahu to speak before Congress and police in Democratic states are shooting at demonstrating students.
May 2, 2024 at 5:16 pm
Just Trollin
Hey magoo…..say hello to your Jan. 6th……
May 2, 2024 at 5:17 pm
Jon Yalcinkaya
Chris Hayes: “A sense of proportion that seems lacking today” Yup.
And Chris goes on to explain why we are so interested in talking about a poor student filming himself had to find an alternate route to class, which was wrong, even if the protesters knew who he was and knew he was in opposition to their protest, instead of talking about Gaza.
https://x.com/jduffyrice/status/1785837860509102254
May 2, 2024 at 5:30 pm
Anonymous
But Eric, it’s just the Bad Jews who are getting blocked from accessing public spaces on campus, the Good Jews are being issued wristbands so that they can pass through the No Bad Jews Zones unmolested, so it’s obviously not anti-Semitic at all!
The Bad Jews, by not assenting to these New Rules for Jews, are just proving that they are “Zionist agitators” and “Zionist infiltrators” and thus deserve to be excluded.
Worst of all are the “agents provocateurs” who go so far as to film the enforcement of the No Bad Jews Zones, clearly a fiendish plot to make the enforcers look bad! Those tricky, tricky Bad Jews!
May 2, 2024 at 5:46 pm
Anonymous
…instead of talking about Gaza.
I agree, some of these the “pro-Palestine” protesters are doing more to distract from cause they espouse, by focusing on their own entitlement, by insisting they should be able to dictate University policy even though they’re a tiny fraction of the student body, by excluding non-approved Jews from public spaces, by trashing buildings and by demanding that there be no consequences for their actions.
May 2, 2024 at 6:02 pm
Anonymous
he was also a known entity on campus, to say he was blocked because of the Star of David, well you can’t know that.
Look at Jon trying to pretend it’s just this one guy being blocked. He’s already forgot the cultish chanters at Columbia, who also just happened to target a Star of David wearer, who in that case was just standing there silently when the “Zionists don’t deserve to live” protest leader incited a crowd to join hands and march in lockstep at the presumed “Zionist infiltrator” in order to “push her out.”
There are, of course plenty of other Jewish students reporting being harrassed, intimidated and excluded, but if they didn’t film it they’re accused of making it up, and if they did film it, that proves they’re an “agent provocateur.” It’s a perfect circle of epistemic closure.
Meanwhile, here’s the UCLAPD confirming that they are not allowed to do anything to prevent Jewish students from being excluded from buildings and common areas by the enforcers of the New Rules for Jews.
May 2, 2024 at 6:05 pm
Anonymous
“a poor student filming himself had to find an alternate route to class”
What’s the big deal, there’s a “colored drinking fountain” right over there, and plenty of room in the back of the bus!
May 2, 2024 at 6:47 pm
Anonymous
If this guy just posted that this exchange happened, and he didn’t film it, it could simply be ignored or denied.
But since he did film it, that makes him an “agent provocateur” and will be handwaved away on that basis.
Heads the anti-Semites win, tails the Jew loses.
Of course his other choices are to lie and and say he’s not a Zionist so that he can be issued a Good Jew wristband allowing him to move about campus freely, or sneak in through another entrance and keep quiet about it, which I guess we could call the Good Bad Jew option.
And even in the latter case, he’s not supposed to remain, as the New Rules for Jews enforcers inform him that he has to leave.
May 2, 2024 at 7:28 pm
Anonymous
I guess if you can’t make the Bad Jews wear yellow stars so they can be identified for movement restriction, and you can’t count on all of them voluntarily exposing themselves to your bigotry by wearing a Star of David necklace, the next best thing is to issue the Good Jews a wrist bracelet that grants them freedom of movement. It’s not a perfect system, but it’s the best these accidental Stanford Prison Experiment re-enactors were able to come up with, so they’re sticking with it.
May 3, 2024 at 3:52 am
Jon Yalcinkaya
I’m glad to hear you use this phrase PA because it means you understand the phenomenon, and it’s important even if it doesn’t apply here.
No one here is saying antisemitism is OK nor has anyone here defended bad behavior which will exist at these protests because of the topic, because of the stakes and because we are human and mistakes will be made. Also because on my side, and on yours if you look at which party is most supportive of the points you are making and have made since 10/07, antisemitism exists and is a scourge and I’m willing to accept that I too am part of the problem which is why pro-Palestinian and anti-Zionist Jewish voices are so important because they are exempt from disingenuous claims of antisemitism and they prove that there is a CRITICAL distinction between antisemitism & anti-Zionism that you, Republicans, AIPAC & DMFI would like to blur or eliminate all together.
But all that is me trying to discuss this in good faith, something I know and have known is impossible with you, (I am not a victim, this is my choice.). So instead of playing tit-for-tat of bad behavior I’ll instead post something absurd because it’s absurd (and kinda funny). Something I wanted to post earlier but didn’t because it showed exactly the ugliness of the other side, something you agree is the exception not the rule but your posting frequency of the exceptions makes it seems the reverse is true. Something I didn’t post because despite the humor & imo valid point the guy, was being an agent provocateur. Well now I have a chance to post it, if only to point out that bad behavior is ubiquitous and thus on both sides. That of course isn’t the issue, unless one WANTS to make it an issue, which you (& AIPAC) do, to prove a point you are trying to make; the heart of these protests, or very near that heart, lies not resistance to oppression but antisemitism.
May 3, 2024 at 3:56 am
Jon Yalcinkaya
oh, and as an aside as I post a TikTok video, where are the anti-authoritarians & free speech advocates when Congress passed a bill, and Biden signed it to ban TikTok under current Chinese ownership.
May 3, 2024 at 4:08 am
Jon Yalcinkaya
One more very important and surreal point. The honorable and completely legitimate resistance to oppression that is being characterized as antisemitic is itself based on oppression and control exclusively of those who are not Jewish. Try to wrap your head around that unjust truth at the very heart of Zionism, it’s nearly impossible to do which is part of the reason AIPAC has been so successful in the US.
May 3, 2024 at 5:12 am
Just Trollin
WOW. Wonder if liberals will attack Sanders…..
May 3, 2024 at 6:05 am
Jon Yalcinkaya
Sanders and 75% of Democrats will vote for Biden. This is all Republican wish-casting & driving wedges as well as media wanting to get their clicks & liberals beginning the blame leftists for fascism stance ], just in case it’s needed. In the end, just as many leftist won’t have voted for Biden as centrists Democrats who wouldn’t have voted afor a Democratic socialist who wants to raise taxes or pass more federal regulations which would include, among so many other things, protective tariffs on international trade.
In the end though, after all is said and done Biden will win assuming good health and assuming Kennedy doesn’t play a spoiler.
May 3, 2024 at 6:25 am
Jon Yalcinkaya
But I don’t have to explain 2 party politics to you JW, you are demonstrating it yourself b/c, lets be honest, you know where Trump stands, how unlikely it is that he would be re-elected and that makes you and thousands or millions of GOP supporters like you who take to social media or media to try to talk down Biden or play wedge politics b/c, just like my criticism of establishment Democrats, you can’t say why people should vote FOR Trump.
You don’t like Trump either JW, which is why you’ve must have written “Magoo” on SoHum how many times would you estimate? I’d guess it would be closing in on 1,000, if not more.
May 3, 2024 at 6:37 am
Just Trollin
LOL……hate to break it to you johnboy, but biden is magoo. Go back to trollin PAC…..
May 3, 2024 at 6:54 am
bolithio
“What’s the big deal, there’s a “colored drinking fountain” right over there, and plenty of room in the back of the bus!”
This is what zionists do in the west bank, but its not a few college kids, its to millions of people. People who can be killed with impunity by the IDF or Zionist settlers.
May 3, 2024 at 7:17 am
Mitch
Israel is nine miles wide at its narrowest point. The west bank was occupied after an act of war by Egypt led to the six day war between Israel and Egypt, Jordan, and Syria.
Until recently, it was a bargaining chip in the peace process.
If you do not have peace with the neighbors, it is unwise to leave a zone containing your airport and major cities within easy range of your neighbors’ artillery. As Arab rejectionism continued, the Israeli population turned rightwards and the racist elements of the settler movement were less well-controlled as they established “facts on the ground.”
The IDF has to keep the Palestinians and the settlers apart and, as an occupying force, it most likely isn’t as kind as it might be towards Palestinians who throw rocks. That is the nature of military occupations.
To compare that situation with “colored water fountains” is, as is much of what comes from the nullity, both ridiculous and despicable.
May 3, 2024 at 8:10 am
humboldturtle
Biden is campaigning. I imagine he has to pander a bit to a lower common denominator than habituates this comment section. Let’s hope he loses the “disorder” language immediately and support a very real effort to find the identities of masked agitators from off campus, at least at UCLA. United we Stand, Divided we Fall. We can argue about Israel, but let’s find out who is messing with our collective minds.
May 3, 2024 at 8:12 am
humboldturtle
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/05/02/ucla-columbia-college-protests-live-updates/73538023007/
May 3, 2024 at 8:22 am
bolithio
We may never know who the masked attackers were becuase instead of arresting these people when the cops were there watching it happen, they instead decided to come back later and arrest all the people who were attacked by them.
May 3, 2024 at 8:28 am
bolithio
They just have to. The settlers in the 100s of illegal settlements need to be kept separate from the people (human animals) that were forcibly removed from the villages that were there before. If there is any resistance to the ongoing expansion of settlements, well thats terrorism. Fighting people who are actively steeling your land is terrorism. Violence is never justified. Forcibly removing people from their homes is defense. As more and more settlements are established, and people are expelled from their villages and homes (those aren’t people and those were not villages!) they need to be increasingly penned up in their new refugee camps (those aren’t refugees!) – there must be military checkpoints and arab specific roads in the whole of the west bank to keep the settlers safe on the occupied land they now control (these people just dont want peace!). The fact that these people are spit on and yelled at by settlers (who just want peace), this is nothing like it was in the Jim Crow south. How dare you! The total control of resources and travel in the west bank that prevents the wretched arabs of the west bank from any semblance of self determination, that is not apartheid, becuase they do not deserve any rights, certainly are not entitled to the land, water, or even goats. That was my goat and you stole it. Im calling the IDF. Oh really, that was your goat, well go file a complaint. Oh, looks like you got arrested! Now thats my hut and Im building a house. This my ancestral home now.
Ridiculous and despicable are good words to describe what Israel abides in the West bank.
May 3, 2024 at 8:32 am
Henchman Of Justice
14% of the dumbest mother fuckers alive in USA!
Politico co-founder urges media to ‘be more humble’ as trust in journalism plummets
Only 14% of voters expressed a ‘great deal of trust’ in mainstream media in a new poll
May 3, 2024 at 8:35 am
Henchman Of Justice
Bithio points out beat cops are lazy ass poop turds who pick and choose winners and losers based upon their beat cop feelings in the moment…
Old News from centuries long ago, but still popular news today…
Cops are fidgety little critters, we know…
May 3, 2024 at 8:39 am
Henchman Of Justice
HT…agreed!
I am waiting for the local shit news coverage to identify just 1 palestinian up at HSUCP… they can’t cover that🤷♂️
May 3, 2024 at 9:10 am
Anonymous
Bolithio’s army of Straw Men appear to have dropped some bad acid and are now arguing among themselves.
May 3, 2024 at 9:46 am
Mitch
Israel experimented with unilateral withdrawal in Gaza. If that had not resulted in the election of a government dedicated to the destruction of Israel, and then the murder, rape, and kidnapping of more than 1,000 random Israeli citizens, perhaps it would be easier to argue that Israel should withdraw from its settlements in the West Bank.
As it is, it looks like the racists who wanted “facts on the ground” had an argument more grounded in reality than did the Israeli peace movement, and that’s sad.
May 3, 2024 at 11:33 am
Anonymous
“No one here is saying antisemitism is OK nor has anyone here defended bad behavior which will exist at these protests…”
You literally spent days vigorously arguing that “some” anti-Semitism is “justified,” and both you and Bolithio have offered a panoply of ridiculous excuses, denials, deflections and victim-blaming rationalizations for the targeted harassment, intimidation and exclusion of non-approved Jews by the self-appointed campus enforcers of the New Rules for Jews.
I have no doubt that both of you have would eagerly donned an Amazon-bought keffiyeh and jumped at the opportunity to cosplay as a revolutionary by acting as one of the wristband-checking, Bad-Jew-excluding, self-appointed enforcers of the New Jew Rules — had you only had the good fortune to be present at UCLA during this brief but glorious period of time when your fellow anti-Semites were given free reign to decide which Jews were allowed full freedom of movement, and which were not. You certainly had all the excuses and rationalizations lined up, but alas, you missed your chance. So sad.
May 3, 2024 at 12:39 pm
bolithio
Hey Eric, I made a post in this thread earlier that didn’t show up, it was addressed to Mitch. Any chance it got stuck on your end?
May 4, 2024 at 4:37 am
Jon Yalcinkaya
To this point, I’d love to wear my keffiyeh my father brought home from his travels to work to show my solidarity to Palestinians under Netanyahu’s bombs but even if it would sneak by rules about dress at work (now that I think about it we just had an update & I should take a closer look) but I personally never would b/c I wouldn’t want to impose on others nor distract us from work.
At the same time I’d support and defend those who would want to wear one, or a hijab or yamaka for that matter.
And I was never a protester in college either, I was too busy trying to do as well as I could in classes. But I’d always support those who do from what was then called a liberal perspective. I grew up in the Bay Area in the 70’s and I believe protest & dissent are critical to continuing the arc of history we are on.