Awesome Jon Stewart Rant on Fox News and Ferguson

August 27, 2014 in Uncategorized | Tags: Fox News, media, racism | by Eric Kirk

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45 comments

August 27, 2014 at 3:06 pm

Erasmus

There are lots of moronic right-wingers out there, and Stewart is masterly in skewering them on their own words. Given the format of his show, it would be unfair to ask for a deeper analysis of this country’s racial divide. Anyone who wishes to read something that touches on some of the issues mentioned by Stewart should find a copy of “Race and Racism,” edited by Bernard Boxill (in the Oxford Readings in Philosophy series, and published by Oxford). The essay by Michael Levin, entitled “Responses to Race Differences in Crime,” is like a cold shower for anyone who approaches racial profiling with mere indignation. There are unpleasant facts about race in this country that might not be music to the ears of Stewart’s audience.

August 27, 2014 at 3:43 pm

Anonymous

Laugh all you want, but satire is the predominant source of mainstream news that portrays an accurate report of America’s public reality.

Laughing is OK.

An informed public and social activism, is not.

Imagine a world where citizens are routinely and seriously informed.

We might start paying attention to our own little hamlets like Eureka, and its county government, and demand to know how a city that pays hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep a zoo certified hasn’t the funding for a Mobile Response Team like other municipalities, thus, making distressed children a matter for police who’s only training in critical responses for children is handcuffs and isolation at juvenile hall or Sempervirens.

Not one media source has reported on the Grand Jury’s Final Report on how we treat local distressed children, essentially, how we’re manufacturing monsters. Little wonder the county is refusing to pay to publish it.

Apparently, only our first school shooting will be newsworthy!

August 27, 2014 at 8:09 pm

Thomas

Fools will be exposed for jumping to the conclusion the Ferguson cop is guilty when all the evidence will be exposed.

August 27, 2014 at 10:22 pm

Unk John

Thomas, I know little of what happened in the Ferguson situation. Because of my ignorance, I, like you, anxiously await further information. So, not knowing enough about the events, I suppose there may be some reason why an unarmed black kid was shot six times by at least one white police officer.

Another place I might plead ignorance is whether or not you actually watched the Stewart rant. If you did, you might have noticed that what he was ranting about had to do with a lot more than just that event.

How do you feel about what he said? Is he being rational when he claims that racial discrimination still exists in this country?

August 28, 2014 at 6:16 am

Liberal Jon

Erasmus: Here is a wiki – bit regarding your recommended expert on race and

Levin agrees with Arthur Jensen and Richard Lynn that white people score higher on IQ tests than black people due to genetic differences—a view that has been criticized by scholars such as Leon Kamin of Princeton University

Sounds like “Bell Curve” thinking to me. Oh, wait…let’s Google Michael Levin and Bell Curve for the fun of it…

ty College of New York The hereditarian theory of race differences in IQ was briefly revived with the appearance of The Bell Curve but then quickly dismissed. The authors attempt a defense of it here, with an eye to conceptual and logical issues of special interests to philosophers, such as alleged infirmities in the heritability concept. At the same time, some relevant post-Bell Curve empirical data are introduced.

The extreme disparities in wealth and justice racially in America need a narrative – ie an excuse. Seems like you are trying to continue one.

August 28, 2014 at 6:59 am

Erasmus

Unfortunately, “liberal” Jon, you have a tendency to sidetrack discussions, and when even a person as reasonable and benevolent as Peter Childs ends up finding your interventions frustratingly wrongheaded you ought to examine your intellectual conscience and endeavor to (1) understand what your interlocutor is actually saying (2) express yourself clearly, directly, and appropriately. — My recommendation that Michael Levin’s essay on race, published by Oxford University Press, is worth reading still stands. The purpose of reading (in my mind) is not to “learn the truth” but to be provoked to think. I’d rather read something that goes against my grain than just another “liberal” feel-good admonition to despise racism. We already have Hallmark cards to convey lovey-dovey messages.

August 28, 2014 at 5:13 pm

suzy blah blah

even a person as reasonable and benevolent as Peter Childs ends up finding your interventions frustratingly wrongheaded

-Jon, you see what suzy means? Here’s another attack on the heart by the head. As was illustrated by Mountain Lake’s take on the white man. With a little observation one can notice that the heart function of many people who have been heavily involved in politics is atrophied. I don’t mean you Jon, you’re too fresh to the field. I’m referring to old stodgy war horses like Buckley and Childs, where the mind function has made up for this lack of heart by appropriating a snooty condescending attitude while feigning to be “reasonable and beneficial”.

As i quoted to you yesterday, Jung said, “the pendulum of the mind alternates between sense and nonsense”. Suzy says, that of the heart–between right and wrong; And it has nothing to do with greeting cards. ❤

August 28, 2014 at 5:18 pm

suzy blah blah

whoops, ‘benevolent’ not ‘beneficial’.

August 28, 2014 at 7:10 pm

HUUFC

Hey, half of the country watches Fox news. The rest of the media shares the other half.

August 29, 2014 at 6:34 am

Dave Kirby

H… I think for those who still “watch” their news that’s probably true. But I think the number of folks who get there news from T.V. and the radio is shrinking. Fox is a classic example of preaching to the choir. Folks watch it to reinforce their bias. One of the best things about the internet is the range of views one can find when trying to get the whole story.

August 29, 2014 at 11:32 am

suzy blah blah

-suzy received an alternative greeting card this morning. No lovey dovey stuff. Instead there’s a nice picture of some books and it says:

The purpose of reading is not to learn the truth …

And then you open the card and it says:

but to be provoked to think.

A very deep intellectually wrought maxim. It’d make a nice poster for the 3rd grade class.

August 31, 2014 at 6:42 am

Liberal Jon

Dave as an example of how meeting a Fox News viewer, Republican or conservative half way may not even get you half way closer to the truth, let me pass along some numbers. Many at Sohum might even call these facts.

This is specifically about this quote

” I think for those who still “watch” their news that’s probably true.”

Answer, no, it’s not. For the week of August 18th 2 million people watched Fox News.* Let me say first, that when listening to ratings numbers, you are probably not hearing these numbers. Total viewers doesn’t mean poop to news ratings nerds/ news executives – it’s the 25-54 demographic that does.

ABC/CBS/NBC EACH averaged about 7 million. **

Totals: ABC/NBC/CBS weekly total viewer numbers for the week of August 18th. About 21 million. FOX news viewer totals. 2 million.

Now there is more I don’t know about these numbers than I know – like how that 7 million is counted – ie is it simply adding the nightly totals together? That seems like a dubious practice as what we all want to know is how many actual individuals are watching the news in a week, not if an individual watches news twice or 7 times. Therefore my 21 million is admittedly too high of an number, but even if every one of those network news watchers watched all 3 network news programs that would put networks at 7 and FOX at 2 million for the most recent week with totals available.

But such is the problem of ratings numbers and many other numbers that influence how popular we think news broadcasts or even ideas are. These numbers are based on what advertisers find have been effective in predicting the outreach of their message. That is really the currency we are talking about here – not necessarily facts.

So, be very critical of truths even with the caveat of “probably”. Could be the truth is nowhere near the mark. Especially when a truth is coming from a biased source.

And yes, I’m biased too. Half the battle to getting to truth or facts is understanding one’s own biases.

Note for HUUFC and the one he was trying to get across. MSNBC does not even rank on the cable news meter in *. There are many sundry reasons for this, but the validity or factualness of FOX News’ reporting is not one of them.

* http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cable-network-ranker-fnc-2-in-primetime-for-week-of-august-18_b236895

** http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/evening-news-ratings-week-of-august-18-2_b236753#disqus_thread

August 31, 2014 at 6:49 am

Liberal Jon

And, finally, to put news numbers in perspective. The O’Reilly Factor is the only News show (or arguably public interest show) that tops cable’s top 25 shows for the week ending August 17. O’Reilly is just ahead of a Big Bang Theory repeat, btw.

This is among the reasons I pay so much attention to radio talking heads. They get 3 hours a day to create their narrative and they may have a much higher audience. (Rush Limbaugh … 13 million)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-listened-to_radio_programs

August 31, 2014 at 11:57 pm

Eric Kirk

Dave is right. Of the three cable networks, MSNBC is the lowest of the ratings. But both CNN and MSNBC bury Fox in online visits. Fox appeals to an older crowd.

Found this old article which kind of tells the story.

Fox News may rule on cable, but on the web, CNN’s the leader–and its website is crushing the online efforts of the titans of print. According to ComScore, for the first three months of 2011, CNN averaged nearly 8.5 million unique U.S. visitors each day. The best-performing newspaper, The New York Times, was ranked third on the ComScore list with an average 5.6 million.
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MSNBC was in second place behind CNN with 7.4 million unique U.S. visitors, and Fox News averaged 2.3 million.

Even trailing CNN and MSNBC, Fox’s online performance beat some of print’s biggest names, including sites for the Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, the New York Daily News and USA Today.

“This is a trend that’s been developing for the last three to four years now,” digital news analyst Ken Doctor of Outsell Inc. told NPR’s David Folkenflik. “This underscores the fact that when you run a news company, you’ve got to run a multi-media company.”

Broadcast network news still way outperforms cable as Jon’s stats show.

September 1, 2014 at 6:23 am

Liberal Jon

Erasmus:

I’d rather read something that goes against my grain than just another “liberal” feel-good admonition to despise racism.

Here is Michael’s book on race. Turn’s out I was right, not only was Michael interested in the bell curve, he (or his publisher) tripled down. The publishers of his book put three bell curves on the cover the one with the lowest mean was of course colored black, the middle white, and possibly to seem unbiased, the color yellow was used for the curve with the highest mean.

Now, I’m aware that the author is rarely in on cover decisions, but I have a feeling that cover may give one a feeling for the contents of the book.

Interestingly, and I don’t think coincidentally, the 2005 book itself is something of a collector’s item, used ones going for $100. Thankfully, if interested, one can by the kindle edition for a reasonable $10. Something I plan on doing per your recommendation.

I did read the portion of the article you linked to that was available for free. I was not impressed and it seems the type of use of numbers one would expect from a philosophy professor – here is one example of a conclusion based on his specious use of statistics…

“Thus, whites attack blacks at about 1/4 of the rate predicted by random choice, while blacks attack whites at more than 3/5 of the predicted rate.”

We can kinda tell where this narrative is headed and I’ll agree with you – it isn’t “feel good”.

However, neither is the liberal narrative on race “feel good”. The liberal narrative on race starts with inequality. And inequality of opportunity that leads to an inequality of outcome.

I can’t explain this better than Nicholas Kristof whose editorial today in the NYT is titled “When Whites Just Don’t Get It”. His first stat is this

The net worth of the average black household in the United States is $6,314, compared with $110,500 for the average white household, according to 2011 census data. The gap has worsened in the last decade, and the United States now has a greater wealth gap by race than South Africa did during apartheid. (Whites in America on average own almost 18 times as much as blacks; in South Africa in 1970, the ratio was about 15 times.)

This difference has to be understood and it’s existance normalized out of any stats or research or study of differences between races in our country or others. When the research starts there, let me know, I may be interested in the study. Most likely though, not. As a liberal, I think we should be seeking out stats like the inequality of wealth and asking ourselves what fundamental, systematic cultural/societal/political/economic structures/barriers/infrastructure exist allowing such unjust and disparate outcomes based solely on race.

From Kristof …

The best escalator to opportunity may be education, but that escalator is broken for black boys growing up in neighborhoods with broken schools. We fail those boys before they fail us.

So a starting point is for those of us in white America to wipe away any self-satisfaction about racial progress. Yes, the progress is real, but so are the challenges. The gaps demand a wrenching, soul-searching excavation of our national soul, and the first step is to acknowledge that the central race challenge in America today is not the suffering of whites.

September 1, 2014 at 6:48 am

Liberal Jon

Also, I’m not sure what is up with this “feel good” meme, but on of the few recommended comments also shared your view that somehow liberal/Democratic politics on race are “feel good”.

Commenter on Amazon re the above book…

“Finally scientific information unfettered by mainstream feel good politics. This book is one key for understanding racial differences and why our best laid programs for success simply don’t work.”

I think this comment really gets to the nub though.

“honest, upright, irrefutable, objective and solid – for all who wants to get rid of prejudices, obsessive thinking against race, illusion of equality and most of all, for everybody a must who doesn’t want to live with all this common lies of political correctness and affirmative actions”

This is about, like Nicholas Kristof alludes to, some whites getting but-hurt that we as a society might want to affirmatively take action against racial disparities. These population-level disparities in economic metrics like total wealth cannot be solved by only boot-strap-pulling or free market sloganeering. It’s going to take effective public policy actions with an eye to the long term, not just today and tomorrow. It’s also going to take reclaiming the the Right’s self-centered and ultimately destructive narrative on race.

September 1, 2014 at 6:50 am

Erasmus

I agree with Kristof (and you) that the supposed suffering of whites is not the central race challenge in America today.

September 1, 2014 at 3:22 pm

Eric Kirk

While NAN and others might see Jon Stewart as a “self-hating Jew,” he denies it.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.613275

September 1, 2014 at 7:56 pm

Not A Native

Tokhes sore? Still smarting over being spanked?

Have some kugel and tzimmes as a significant experience to claim knowledge of Israelis’ identity or how the Jewish people is sustained. And I’ll stipulate: Eric isn’t a self-hating Jew.

September 1, 2014 at 11:36 pm

Eric Kirk

Not the point NAN. Apparently you have a problem with left wing Jews. Jon Stewart is within that camp. Hence my comment.

September 2, 2014 at 5:30 am

Liberal Jon

And I agree with you Erasmus that one’s media intake should not be limited to those one agrees with. I disagree with you that Levin’s book would be akin to a cold shower for those in the audience that night.

September 2, 2014 at 8:26 am

Not A Native

Eric, what exactly IS your point? Are you citing Stewart as a poster child for Jews or Israelis? Much stereotyping does Eric do.

Better stick to something you have formative years experience with, like the facial appearance of a man from Nazareth and Aquinas’s opinion of free will.

September 2, 2014 at 10:20 am

Eric Kirk

No, just commenting on your stated view that Jews shouldn’t be left wing, and obviously if he is he must be “self-hating.”

September 2, 2014 at 11:11 am

Dave Kirby

This whole ” how Jews are supposed to be, politically” with regards to Israel/Gaza cluster fuck reminds me very much of the late 60’s. We had a bunch of sunshine patriots running around with “love it or leave it” stickers on their vehicles. Us “anti americans” had better just leave the country if we couldn’t get behind “our boys” in Viet Nam. After all we must be America haters. Many years later I was headed home from Eureka and that rightist twerp Medved spouted the line “There are only two positions one can take…. you either support President Bush’s Iraq policy or you support Saddam. Thats one of the sinister side effects of war and violence….group brain fade. It’s like half the country morphs into Rick Perry with the associated drop in I.Q..

September 2, 2014 at 12:50 pm

Not A Native

Eric I never wrote “Jews shouldn’t be left wing”. Quote my writing or move on to a different libel. .

I’d like to say ‘nice try to mischaracterize’, but you’re so pathetically lame.. You just emulate Little Jack Horner except you pull out a fib instead of a plum and its from your backside instead of a pie.

Sometimes your comprehension and memory are so poor, I think you must be on drugs. Your classic is the excuse, “I’ll respond on that later” but never do. Do you do that with clients of your law practice too? .

September 2, 2014 at 2:19 pm

Eric Kirk

I’m just playing by NAN rules. Gosh, now don’t you feel “spanked?”

September 2, 2014 at 2:32 pm

Anonymous

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September 2, 2014 at 2:46 pm

Anonymous

http://www.thenazareneway.com/dark_side_of_christian_history.htm

September 2, 2014 at 7:05 pm

Not A Native

Whatever you say Eric. It all OK as long as you’re called out for promulgating frankly anti-Semitic characterizations. Likely stemming from ignorance and arrogance, not hatred. But none the less, they still deny Jews’ agency and religious identity.

September 2, 2014 at 7:27 pm

Eric Kirk

I did not fucking deny “Jews’ agency and religious identity.” You’re trying to make it like Christianity, but it doesn’t fit. There is no “Judeo-Christian religion.” There is Judaism and there is Christianity, and they are similar in that they involve systems of belief about God. But they are not the same, and as much as you emotionally want to do so for whatever reason, you can’t separate Jewish religious culture from its secular culture, because they are two aspects of the same thing. And trying to fit Jewish politics in Israel into your views of right and left are silly. If you bother to research it you’ll find that Likud, the major “right wing” party makes certain overtures to the free market ideology, but in practice and even in platform it’s economic polices are to the left of the American Democratic Party’s. Well to the left. The right wing aspect of it is pretty much limited to issues of security and to a lesser degree culture. In summary – even the Jewish “right” isn’t right wing by the standards to which you are accustomed. When the Nazis suggest that socialism is a Jewish creation, it’s not all that inaccurate at least in terms of 19th and 20th century socialist ideologies.

But mostly my snark is in response to your taking words I put in quotation marks – you didn’t even notice them as you were cut and pasting them – as if the term “Christ killer” would even have any meaning for me if I wanted to attack Judaism. It’s not something said in earnest by someone who is not even convinced that Christ ever physically existed. That was either deliberate, or impulsive. Either way, it’s really annoying, kind of typical pedestrian internet flame tactics, and you should know better.

September 2, 2014 at 7:47 pm

Not A Native

Here’s a provocative essay by a Young Israel Rabbi giving a historical analysis of Jewish American political alignment. It proposes/projects a similarity with Southern Christians. Rather lengthy, so Eric won’t read it. But see if you can spot the mention of Jon Stewart….

Of course, the essay says nothing about Israeli political trends and doesn’t pretend to.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/07/jews_and_american_conservatism.html

September 3, 2014 at 5:41 am

Mitch

NaN,

Provocative is certainly a good descriptive word for that essay. Hateful is another — the author appears to be near to drooling with his hatred of Barack Obama.

I think Jews in America are mostly for policies that help the underdog and push towards equality. I don’t think that’s hard to explain — we have been the underdog and have suffered from inequality, and know in our bones that no matter what safety we might imagine having at a given moment, things can change, and change rapidly.

The politics of class and/or racial hatred like that of the Tea Party and, on occasion, the mainstream GOP, immediately repels us. It repels me from certain parts of the left as well. The explanation for that is also straightforward, and Tom Lehrer captured it perfectly in a throwaway line in National Brotherhood Week: “…and everybody hates the Jews.” Jews are genuinely afraid when hatred against anyone thrives, because it’s been our experience that, sooner or later, it ends up burning us.

September 3, 2014 at 6:10 am

Liberal Jon

“The author appears to be near to drooling with his hatred of Barack Obama.”

You understand of course Mitch that that is not what drives his passion on the subject right Mitch? The current occupant of the oval office is irrelevant.

This is the populist heart of right wing foreign policy as much as immigration issues is currently the populist heart of right wing domestic policy.

“Judeo-Christian” may not be a religion, but it is a powerful narrative to frame our founding. It would be interesting to have a count of how many times this phrase is said daily on the HumCo radio tandem of KINS and 980 AM.

September 3, 2014 at 7:43 am

Not A Native

Well Mitch, the Rabbi is certainly Conservative and the later references to Obama in Hollywood are indeed partisan. But I don’t agree they are hateful.

Its a fact that Obama’s popularity has declined markedly so Democrats running this year are distancing themselves from him personally even though they support many of his policies. I like the essay because it provides a realistic narrative of American Jews politics and makes predictions that are based in facts and credible, though not certain.

I found this more edgy and purely pundit driven piece about the same subject, American Jew’s political trends. This one is more about political issues and tactics, less scholarly, It attempts to connect politics to theology since it is addressed to rabbinical students and argues that Judaism isn’t inherently ‘liberal'(in the current partisan sense) despite the anti-Semitic claims of Eric who denies Jews agency by claiming others’ opinions define Jewish self identity and also denies their self adopted religious uniqueness as the fundamental basis of their persistence. Again, this piece says nothing about Israeli politics at all.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/opinion/article/politics_of_liberal_and_conservative_jews_reverse_20071116/

September 3, 2014 at 10:10 am

Not A Native

Eric, you highjacked your own thread and now just throw a lot of random and unconnected garbage out with no attribution, like spaghetti on the wall maybe hoping something will stick. Well it won’t.

Maybe I’ll add more on the original and relevant thread about the Middle Eat. But just one rebuttal about Likud being on the left. Well, Israeli left/right issues aren’t synonymous with US left/right issues, largely IMO because the religious traditions are different. For example abortion, creationism, immigration, feminism, guns, ‘family values’, are US left/right issues because they are important to Christian identity. They are much less important to Jewish identity and so citing Israeli left/right politics in those term is simply inapt.

But the Middle East issue of your thread is the establishment of fixed Israeli borders, a very significant left/right political issue in Israel, since borders to establish the nation haven’t been settled.

The Likud party platform has a clear position on the border question:

“The Right of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel (Eretz Israel)

a. The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and is linked with the right to security and peace; therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.

b. A plan which relinquishes parts of western Eretz Israel, undermines our right to the country, unavoidably leads to the establishment of a “Palestinian State,” jeopardizes the security of the Jewish population, endangers the existence of the State of Israel. and frustrates any prospect of peace.”

Here’s more recent Likud political development

http://www.haaretz.com/news/israeli-elections-2013/israeli-elections-news-features/likud-beiteinu-struggles-to-reconcile-charter-with-netanyahu-s-two-state-bar-ilan-speech-1.489644

Eric, every claim you make about Likud being associated with left, as Israelis see it, is just stupid and uninformed. Maybe for the sake of your relations with in-laws and justify being here you just want to counter HumCo ‘progressive’ leanings on the borders issue. But your promulgating lies and misinformation while claiming knowledge and experience of Israeli sentiments is despicable and disrespecting and disdainful of them.

September 3, 2014 at 11:51 am

Eric Kirk

When did I say that Likud is “associated with the left?” I said that its economic platform and practices are to the left of the Democratic Party.

Honestly NAN, if you want to debate your own strawmen instead of responding to me, fine, but at least leave my name out of it.

And there have been conservative Jews calling for an alliance with the Christian religious right, as Irving Kristol tried so hard to bring more Jews into the secular conservative fold. Neither has made much ground. In a Presidential election, in a bad year, the Democrat takes 65 to 70 percent of the Jewish vote. More often, the Democrats take 75 to 80 percent. The only ethnic group which is more consistent is the black vote, which goes 85 to 95 percent Democratic pretty consistently since the New Deal.

Your dream of a conservative cross-religion coalition just won’t manifest itself, to the eternal frustration of the Kristols and Horowitzes. Most Jews don’t want to be told that their homecoming is the trigger for Armageddon, no matter how “friendly” the message. Nor do Jews want to be told that they need to be “perfected” by accepting Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior. And, on domestic policy, it’s actually the secular Jewish conservatives who relate to conservative economic policies. Religious Jews, however conservative they may be culturally, believe in a social support system, much like many conservative Catholics.

September 3, 2014 at 1:41 pm

Just Watchin

Wow….it’s been a while since George Bush has been blamed for everything wrong in the world. You libturds are slipping!

September 3, 2014 at 3:20 pm

Mitch

JW,

It’s not looking like the Obama administration will cooperate with the Hague in extraditing our war criminals, so there’s not much reason for George to be in the news these days. I’ve been surprised that he’s actually intelligent enough to have kept a low profile after slithering away from the oval playpen.

September 3, 2014 at 3:48 pm

Just Watchin

The real surprise is how little it takes to surprise the typical low information voter.

September 4, 2014 at 1:27 am

Eric Kirk

Everybody’s blaming Bush and/or Cheney for ISIS right now. Even Glen Beck.

September 4, 2014 at 4:14 am

Liberal Jon

Glenn, Eric. Please increase your information intake so you can vote more appropriately.

September 4, 2014 at 4:17 am

Just Watchin

I’m sure that Beck is pleased that you’re now a supporter. Kinda like him getting gum stuck to the bottom of his shoe.

September 4, 2014 at 5:47 am

Liberal Jon

Exactly JW. That is the right wing’s attitude on the middle class.

“I’ve got mine. Is there gum on my shoe?”*

* Not actually true in Glenn’s case – he does walk the walk, but he wants care for the middle class and others to be done through religious and non-governmental organizations. That’s righteous – just not enough.

September 4, 2014 at 6:29 am

Just Watchin

Exactly jonboy. the left wing’s attitude of why work for your own, when you can leech off of those who have worked for theirs and live the life of leisure. I sense that you’re bitter now that the government makes you work for what you used to get for free.

September 4, 2014 at 11:42 am

Liberal Jon

“makes you work for what you used to get for free” do you know this to be true JW?

The left wing’s policies proposals are based on the fact that wealth distribution has gotten to a place where it has become a matter of national security. (to turn two right wing talking points on their heads)

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