Civil War on Daily Kos.  Congressional opposition gathering forces, starting with Feingold and Grayson.  The speech starts in five minutes.  Obama is expected to announce withdrawal from Afghanistan in the summer of 2011 following the “surge” – his spokespeoples’ words.

Republicans mostly silent right now, but I expect they’ll have it together to say something tonight.

So will Obama be FDR or Johnson?  I’d really like to believe that 30 thousand troops can pull Afghanistan out of the 13th century, but I just don’t see it.  No invasion of the country, from east or west, has managed to end in anything other than catastrophe.  I guess Obama feels lucky.  I doubt the 30 thousand troops nor rural Afghan citizens feel quite so lucky.

Addendum: Well, on my way home from Eureka I listened to the speech and then randomly selected AM stations to get the right wing talk spin.  One guy, a host named “Mark” who airs on KOG 780, which comes out of Reno and can be heard in Sohum at night, called Obama a “demagogue.”  Another avoided the topic altogether and instead spent the evening turning on Huckabee for pardoning the cop killer due to what they said was a bogus religious conversion.  Others wove between the speech and other issues such as mammograms.  The conservative talking points can be reduced to three points:

1.  He waited too long to make the decision.

2. He’s not sending enough troops.

3.  He shouldn’t set timelines for withdrawal

They also didn’t like Obama’s veiled criticisms of Bush re Iraq.  And one guy I didn’t recognize actually criticized him for pushing the issue of defining victory according to specific goals as opposed to the total destruction of all organizations of terror.

Meanwhile, the left is split wide open.  Conservatives can rightly ask those Obama supporters backing the plan whether they would have supported the same policy under Bush.  They also rightly demand an admission that the “surge” in Iraq actually worked.  One silver lining is that Obama did confirm the winding down of the Iraq war with the redeployment of all combat troops.

There will be some protests.  Not as large as the initial Iraq war protests.  Routine; almost obligatory.