Should I be Stricter in Moderation?

January 28, 2013 in Uncategorized

Great article in Scientific American.

All about the dangers and pitfalls of trying to moderate forums allowing for anonymous posting.

What do you think?

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January 28, 2013 at 2:36 pm

John Chiv

I think you are very fair Eric. Nice article. Thanks for the link.

January 28, 2013 at 3:49 pm

Anonymous

Didn’t get it at first, the cartoon would be clearer if you were able to retain the animation. Long article, only read the first third. Seems like the author is saying blogs are becoming passe, certainly appears to be so in HumCo..

My opinion: Your blog is what you make it. Since this one is largely local, the usual suspects are around again and again. So I’m not so sure that the polarizing effect of flamers is very large for a local blog like this. Instead, I think flamers simply repel others from whatever ideas they express.

I think if there was a thumbs up/thumbs down option here it would ‘shame’ most local flamers. What they mainly want is affirmation. A bunch of thumbs downs will harsh their high. And maybe if a post has too high a down/up ratio, the blog owner should shitcan it….

January 28, 2013 at 4:33 pm

Mitch

Interesting article, thanks. I’ve tended to view the Herald as a place where under-represented viewpoints can get aired. I figure that a lot of the time, the under-represented viewpoints belong to crazy people, so I’ve tried to be ultra-accommodating. This is food for thought.

January 28, 2013 at 5:50 pm

bolithio

As long as I have been participating here, I cant really think of very many moments that would require moderation. I prefer civilized discourse over anarchy, so I pretty much only participate in moderated forums. I would always recommend that people moderate their blogs. If they don’t, they will allow other people to rule the threads which will turn many people away.

January 28, 2013 at 8:19 pm

"Henchman Of Justice"

To moderate is to defy “freedom of speech and freedom of expression”. Those who clamor to have a blog administrator moderate are of the type who don’t want others to read something they disfavor. Personally, let it all roll because then people get to know who and what they are dealing with.

Thumbs -up and thumbs-down don’t accomplish anything, especially when the same poster can continually thumb-up or thumb down the same post, thereby throwing out the window any accuracy to the “rating scheme” by and through dilution.

Another reason moderation occurs is because the blog administrator gets all fanaticly upset that some “outsider” knows more or is making more waves with their comments than that of the administrator.

Spank Sims is a near perfect example of a scorned child who gets all nanny nanny when he is outdone and someone else is creating the thunder that “shows him-up”. Notice the fallout to Spanky’s blog….some people’s jealousy and greed makes it such that they never learn. Case in point, Spanky’s time at the NCJ!

What is nice about Eric’s blog is that the software used does not seem to conflict with “outsiders’” computers. Even better, Eric does not use “undiscussed software gliches” as ruse reasonings as to why “outsiders” have problems writing, when in reality, it is the software being used by the blogsite that “alters the layout”.- HOJ

January 29, 2013 at 6:55 am

bolithio

To moderate is to defy “freedom of speech and freedom of expression”.

So is that how you would feel if I came and took a shit on your lawn? Freedom of expression? Blogs are private property bro! I created my blog to share pictures with friends and family. If some dick starts posting inappropriate comments, guess what? Banned. Moderation is not for preventing reasonable comments. Its to maintain a level discourse. Look at un-moderated you-tube, where every third post is “you fag” or some other retarded post. Thats what were talking about HOJ.

January 29, 2013 at 10:09 am

Not A Native

Think I submitted a comment here, is it in moderation?

January 29, 2013 at 10:56 am

Eric Kirk

I thought I sent it through NAN. Let me check.

January 29, 2013 at 10:58 am

Eric Kirk

I can’t find it NAN. I wonder if I accidentally deleted it. I hope not.

I’m wondering if you forgot to include your handle, as the graphic of the second post matches your color and shape. Could the second comment be yours?

January 29, 2013 at 2:54 pm

ICU812

Nice one NAN, it would seem you punked the blog master. Eric would say no, he was just playing with you too….

I thought it was normal to post here with the words: “Waiting Moderation”

January 29, 2013 at 3:20 pm

Eric Kirk

Actually, I have no idea what you’re talking about.

January 29, 2013 at 8:24 pm

Mitch

More tricks, Eric? You might as well be one of the J people.

January 29, 2013 at 11:28 pm

Not A Native

Yep second comment is mine. Maybe I mistakenly entered my pseudonym into the website line …… So I can’t substantiate the theory of ICU812 and the amen chorus Mitch

January 30, 2013 at 8:35 am

"Henchman Of Justice"

Bolithio,

Blogs “MAY” be private property, they “MAY” be quasi public/private property and “MAY” be totally public property (depending on the domain conditions and the functional purpose).

For “PRIVATE” Blogs, the administrator “only reveals their inner-self” when they decide to censor and ban. HOJ could not “trust fully” any person who “falls back” on the ole separation of ethics just because a single individual wants to act in such authority over matters that are “included in Constituional law” but that being private allows an individual to do opposite.

On matters of the public domain, when someone is a “shape shifter”, they can’t be trusted with constitutional stuff because they already have proven their ideals “don’t match-up”. Same can be said for immigration retorics and misconducts by acting public officials at both the state and federal levels, both democrats and republicans, FOR VOTES (as an example). If this country is a rule of law territory, it seems awefully hipocritical to then say, “on my own, I will do opposite of what the Constitution is trying to instill in all countrymen and women as it relates to freedom of speech and expression. It is like one person or thing eaching this, while another person or thing teaches opposite –> it confuses and twists the mindsets of people who have weak ethics and morals.

As far as “FAGS” as you mention, sure it is true that many posts in many threads have discourse like what you say, but funny thing is, HOJ has not yet seen ONE BLOG that has a tab that explains ALL THE RULES OF CONDUCT, and if broken, then comment can be whatever the administrator syas can happen –>that is fair transparancy. Of course, some blogs just make stuff-up as the administrator can be less than ethical themself, especially over political write-ups. As you should know by now, politics is in near everything today. Personally, I would rather KNOW all feelings and sentiment so as to “understand reality and what and who society is dealing with”. Covering-up has never been good for any society as history continually repeats, even if it takes centuries as compared to mere years.

As far as property rights, you could attempt to shit on my lawn with a hearty piss, but you may just get caught or worse. As is anything, no laws will prevent a wrongdoer from attempting what they want to do, even if for the stupidist or meanest reasons.

Funny you have to get all “fecal minded and such” in an attacking manner. Now, if you have “better reasonings” about my first response, HOJ will try to understand in a more “civil manner”. – HOJ

January 30, 2013 at 10:12 am

Not A Native

Its a tragedy that Jeffrey has a very disabling language dysfunction because some of his ideas are insightful and merit further discussion. But I’d never even dream of attempting a rational dialogue with him.

Off topic. Will Eric create a thread around the cover article of this week’s Independent?

January 30, 2013 at 10:15 am

Eric Kirk

More info NAN? Haven’t seen it yet.

January 30, 2013 at 10:34 am

Not A Native

Eel River Task Force meeting last week where Fish and Wildlife showed graphics and an analysis of water usage in Redwood and Salmon creek watersheds. PIcs are on the front page.

January 30, 2013 at 12:36 pm

ICU812

NAN, for the same reason you can’t say it either, why water usage is so high and the reason CDFW showed the Google Earth graphics in the first place is the reason KMUD or the blogs in sohum will not talk about it or even recognize there is a problem, marijuana is the 900# gorilla in the room, Eric will not blog about it. If you listen to SRF and their proposed Redwood Creek water consumption study, they talk about everything else under the sun that could be causing the problem, but never about how much water is being used for marijuana. Dana Stolzman from SRF was on the KMUD Environment show last night, she was freaked out over that article, didn’t know what to make of it and hopes it didn’t keep people from sharing information who live in the Redwood Creek Watershed.and how much water they use and for what……

January 30, 2013 at 1:36 pm

Eric Kirk

NAN – I’ll get a copy and have a look. I wish they had an online version I could link to.

January 30, 2013 at 4:01 pm

ICU812

Maybe you could post about Zachary Bowman, who filed an appeal to the Board of Supervisors and the Planning Commissions approval of Reggae on the River at French’s Camp, that news was online,

http://lostcoastoutpost.com/2013/jan/29/reggae-river-returns-frenchs-camp/

January 30, 2013 at 4:20 pm

Cookie

Just like you never hear how much water is sucked up for pot in the Mattole. Then in Oct. after harvest, when water flows increase, Tasha McKee tries to give Sanctuary Forest credit.

January 30, 2013 at 5:12 pm

Eric Kirk

ICU – you just did. I don’t see that as a major public issue, but rather an issue about details to be worked out between the event organizers and a local business. But if you’ve got any opinions about how the cones on the road should be laid out, I’m sure all parties would be fascinated to hear them.

As for the straws pulling water out of the rivers for pot growing, I believe I’ve commented extensively on this blog about it. I will review the Independent article to see if there’s anything new to be said about it.

January 30, 2013 at 7:03 pm

Kenton Mcguire

So Joe sets out for the show without any preparation to spit hot fire about his retarded agenda. When Joe and his gay camera man arrives we see that he is put in the dead last spot for the press and Geoff doesn’t want to even talk with him. After all Geoff is a busy man and he’s got to make sure this entire show runs smoothly and could wait until after to talk with Joe. Joe is so frustrated that he can no longer wait. Eventually he convinces some girl to make Geoff talk with him where Geoff tells him he’s got a few minutes which Joe claims it was two. From this moment on we see [http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/2010/12/geoff-keighley-vgas-interview/ the worst gaming journalist interview put on film] as Geoff tears this rookie’s asshole in half like a phone book, all while Joe seems to be constantly on the edge of crying like a little girl. Joe then bitches how he let everyone down and is a complete failure, but it was not his fault.

January 30, 2013 at 8:18 pm

"Henchman Of Justice"

NAN, what examples are you using in the disabling language dysfunction claim, other than the differences of opinions? Of course, you can’t be using screen changes from layouts and formats due to variances in software used by the blog sites, as opposed to the commenter’s computer software. Case in point, compatability view. – HOJ

January 30, 2013 at 8:28 pm

"Henchman Of Justice"

ICU812 – Van Halen had an album, “OU812″.

Anyhow, that 900# gorilla is not limited to one species. In fact, more small growers are storing water. It is kinda similar a situation to when big industry contaminated the environment in various forms, were made to change for the better, little by little, but that the healing would occur over a longer period of time. Now, some environmental regulations seem overboard because they use the fear of the past without recognizing the gains in environmental healing and repair. It should seem plausible that as we head into the future, the environment would be less impacted because of the steps and conditions for impacts that are put into place.

Of course, there is imperfection and rogueness (like unpermitted developments), but even unpermitted developments are not always 100% impacting. In some instances, there are unpermitted developments that do more for protecting the enviroment than the minimum standards any process would mitigate. HOJ’s own development along a streamside management area (SMA ZONE) is a great case-in-point….above and beyond, as HOJ always has done and will continue to do. The problem often is not the developer, but people who come along afterward who are more than just careless, they just don’t care. that is GREED. – HOJ

January 30, 2013 at 9:05 pm

ICU812

“Henchman Of Justice”, you are correct, “OU812″ was the title of an Van Halen album (circa 1986), they also had another entitled “5150″.

January 30, 2013 at 10:10 pm

moviedad

“I can moderating!” Ha! I kill me.

January 30, 2013 at 11:05 pm

ICU812

“As for the straws pulling water out of the rivers for pot growing, I believe I’ve commented extensively on this blog about it”

Eric, could you point out the date of the thread you “commented extensively” about this issue?

January 30, 2013 at 11:12 pm

Eric Kirk

The thread? As in one thread?

I don’t know how long you’ve been reading the blog, but it’s been a huge topic on numerous threads. I’ve been accused of “demonizing” pot growers.

All the blame and none of the credit.

I can typing.

January 30, 2013 at 11:37 pm

ICU812

Eric, could you point out the date of the thread you “commented extensively” about this issue?

January 30, 2013 at 11:45 pm

Eric Kirk

No, I couldn’t point out the numerous dates of threads I commented extensively about this issue. You’ve got the same search tools I have. If you’re that interested, you search them.

I can typing.

January 31, 2013 at 7:13 am

bolithio

Im going to find this article too. I remain skeptical of this water use gorilla. I really want to see the estimated water usage of dope compared to the diversions of the dams on the river.

January 31, 2013 at 9:15 am

"Henchman Of Justice"

ICU812,

Yep, 5150 was a killer guitar piece album by EVH. HOJ’s favorite guitar player for rock and roll/light metal sound. HOJ especially play’s Van Halen songs (as best as possible, nothing near Eddie though) on his serial numbered 1972 Fender Strat. The latest efforts are songs like, “Your No Good”, “Little Dreamer”, etc…

Anyhow, Van Halen has another crazy guitar driven album “FUCK”, which means “For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge”.

Still tryin’ to get down the guitar picking of “Meant Street” though. Saludad. – HOJ

January 31, 2013 at 9:22 am

"Henchman Of Justice"

Haven’t seen demonizing of pot by Eric, just an analyses here and there in an opinionated form. We as a blog community may not alway’s agree on any given issues, but the flat out lies and deceptions that attack one’s character is more a concern than any poster who demonizes any given subject matter. Maybe there are more bloggers who still need to grow-up out of pre-school and learn how to be straightforward, honest, sincere, factual and ultimately truthful. It may take some time, if at all – HOJ

January 31, 2013 at 9:35 am

ICU812

Eric? I did find this thread, nothing like your claim (“commented extensively” or “demonizing” pot growers). In fact its “bolithio” that does most of the posting. I will keep looking…..

http://kunsoo1024.wordpress.com/2012/02/21/marijuana-vs-fish/

January 31, 2013 at 9:48 am

ICU812

I have saved this PBS short from 2010, one of the first public TV discussions about growing marijuna and what its doing to the environment and talking about Humboldt.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/environment/pot-not-so-green-after-all/839/

January 31, 2013 at 10:47 am

Eric Kirk

Well keep looking. There were discussions in both the 08 and 12 supervisor campaign threads, and there was an extensive discussion with TRA during one of the dry years in between when the Eel and Mattole were particularly low, in which we discussed the draws of the “urban” areas of Garberville and Redway as well as Tasha McKee’s arguments based on the comparable lack of flowing water in Mattole minor watersheds with little or no human activity, and the percentages of flows drawn by humans at any given time of the year. We’ve discussed this topic up, down, and all around – mostly in the context of the GPU.

January 31, 2013 at 11:20 am

ICU812

Thank you very much. I guess Tasha considers the cultivation of marijuana “little or no human activity, and the percentages of flows drawn by humans at any given time of the year” at the headwaters of the Mattole, e.g. Thompson Creek. Maybe she should look at Google Earth. And so should SRF!

January 31, 2013 at 11:52 am

ICU812

Here is a presentation made by CDFW to the HC BOS in Aug 2012, same as what was presented at the Eel River Task Force meeting in Benbow last week and what was printed in the Indie this week by Keith Easthouse.

It starts at 24:30 on the counter:

http://humboldt.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=3&clip_id=471

January 31, 2013 at 2:01 pm

Unk John

@ICU812: Eric did not claim that he demonized pot growers. He said that he had been accused of doing so. English teachers could use your comment as an example of what is meant by “out of context.”

January 31, 2013 at 2:37 pm

ICU812

Point well taken “Unk John”, Thank you, may I please have another?

January 31, 2013 at 5:03 pm

Unk John

No, you may not. Sit! Stay!

But, by all means continue to contribute. I love dialogue.

January 31, 2013 at 5:09 pm

Not A Native

I’d pretty much forgotten about TRA with his obsessive posting and denial about the local negative effects of pot growing. While always claiming reasonableness and not being a grower, he knew too many details about pot growing to be simply an objective outside observer. And he had lots of time to type scores of posts daily. He was coherent but still a particular variety of ‘I can typing”. I expect TRA is one of the perps in the flurry of recent pot busts and now lying low or on the lam.

January 31, 2013 at 5:35 pm

Not A Native

As to the question of Eric’s position on pot cultivation in SoHum, its my observation that he’s shifted over the years, as he has on a number of topics.

Early on, he was much more accommodating of growing as an economic good outweighing associated risks and negatives. I think that’s when he was establishing himself professionally and wanting to maximize his potential. As his business became more about land transactions he shifted to be more sympathetic to the sensitivities of the people whose interests being hurt by pot growing culture. Now, as he’s relocated and ‘cut the ties’ as it were, he’s unveiling a more hard line environmental stance consistent with his new environs. Some might say Eric is a opportunist or flip flopper, but that’s a very narrow view. I’d say he’s more an adaptable chameleon survivor. I also believe his personal understanding of his obligations as a parent have changed his outlook on these issues.

January 31, 2013 at 5:54 pm

Anonymous

“I expect TRA is one of the perps in the flurry of recent pot busts and now lying low or on the lam.”

I expect NAN is full of crap. Both literally and figuratively.

January 31, 2013 at 6:31 pm

Anonymous

i say post more often, and don’t worry about the amount of moderation.

January 31, 2013 at 10:35 pm

Not A Native

Well anon 5:54, you’re just blowing smoke from TRA’s shake.. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. I’m posting comments/opinions here pretty regularly. TRA has vamoosed…’Nuff said.

February 1, 2013 at 12:32 am

Anonymous

Which proves nothing, other than that you appear to have a very low standard of proof for things that you want believe, but lack any real evidence for. Thanks for the heads-up, this will be useful in evaluating your future comments.

February 1, 2013 at 11:01 am

ICU812

Maybe TRA is dead, maybe he left clues in his last post. Maybe he…..

Eric knew who he was, ask Eric? I can typing……

February 1, 2013 at 12:38 pm

Not A Native

You have zero credibility since you chosen ‘anonymous’ and any future comments can’t be attributed to you.. No one can prove the sun will rise in the East tomorrow, but its a pretty good bet. Just as good a bet that TRA is a pot grower and the fact that his comments stopped at the same time local pot law enforcement increased.

February 1, 2013 at 12:48 pm

Anonymous

You sure do seem weirdly desperate to believe that, despite no actual evidence. That’s your idea of “a pretty good bet?” Better steer clear of the casinos!

February 1, 2013 at 1:31 pm

Mitch

Alternate possibility one: tra got busy.
Alternate possibility two: tra got sick of the blog scene
Alternate possibility three: tra moved
Alternate possibility four: tra switched to a new pseudonym, or to anon

NaN, paraphrased: “I’ll just arbitrarily decide this person is lying low or on the lam. That’s not character assassination, because I’m doing it.”

February 1, 2013 at 2:59 pm

Anonymous

“No one can prove the sun will rise in the East tomorrow, but its a pretty good bet. Just as good a bet that TRA is a pot grower.”

Well, the belief that the sun will rise in the East tomorrow is based on countless millenia of experience with that happening every day, not to mention scientific knowledge about the motion of the planet relative to the sun and what it would take to change that. Whereas NAN’s assumptions are based on…well, NAN’s assumptions, some rather weak deductive reasoning based on coincidental timing of events, and apparently a heaping portion of wishful thinking. I doubt anyone other than NAN would conclude that this constitutes “just as good a bet.”

February 1, 2013 at 8:31 pm

Eric Kirk

I do not know who TRA is, however, he or she has stated that s/he has a business – mail order or something.

February 2, 2013 at 11:11 am

Mitch

Getting back to the original topic…

The situation with respect to moderation on blogs strikes me as an extremely low-significance version of a major problem in all societies — the asymmetry between the cost and effort in creating something and the ease with which in many situations it can be destroyed.

Services to people in need are a good example, I think; because they will always be abused by certain people, they end up with little public support. It’s crazy to think that the homeless population should be, in effect, punished for the behavior of a small fraction of people in their situation, but they are, because they are all painted with the brush of the few in their situation who cause news- or gossip-worthy problems.

Another example would be air traffic. Billions in capital invested in getting people rapidly from one location to another ends up needing an incredibly expensive layer of security theatre because of the actions of fewer than one hundred sick people from around the world.

Another blog (Slashdot) has an item on Harvard issuing suspensions in connection with one of their courses, after they discovered a depressing percentage of the students had cheated on take-home exams. There will always be a level of cheating in any population. When no effort whatsoever is diverted to controlling people who will otherwise cheat, disrupt, and destroy, the even minor self-satisfaction some people gain by engaging in the practices will cause them to spread and flourish.

It’s depressing, and it’s enough to make me wonder if maybe the idiotic meme of an imaginary daddy always looking down from above isn’t a bad meme for societies to spread.

February 2, 2013 at 11:40 am

Not A Native

Oh yeah, I remember that too. A vague reference that cleverly hides a kernel of truth. A few recent local arrests began as intercepted out of state packages. Those ‘seal a meal’ just aren’t effective camouflage any more.

February 2, 2013 at 1:19 pm

Anonymous

NAN @ 11:40 helpfully supplies yet more groundless speculation from someone with an obsessive need to believe something negative about someone they’ve never met and know nothing about.

So, thanks to NAN for providing a stellar example of “I can typing.”

February 2, 2013 at 10:00 pm

Unk John

I haven’t seen any posts lately from Suzy, Erasmus, Narration, or for that matter Ernie. Dope growers all.

The only reason I’m posting this is to let one and all know that I am not in jail at the present time.

February 2, 2013 at 10:15 pm

ICU812

“Cookie” had said above: “Just like you never hear how much water is sucked up for pot in the Mattole”

Besides CDFW, Scott Greacen from FOER has been talking about it out loud, and its being heard by more and more people. I think its sad that Richard Gienger and alike would try and dismiss these facts about whom is using all the water from spings, creeks, streams and rivers in SoHum. Its not like its not being done in other parts of the County, it stands out because Sohum doesn’t have the same amount of water in the summer or late fall as do other growers.

February 2, 2013 at 11:19 pm

Anonymous

NAN had been posting frequently at one time, had a lot of time to make many comments, claimed to know a lot about how “most pot growers” behave, then wasn’t posting at all for a few months, and is now back. Therefore, ipso facto selecto NAN is a pot grower who got busted, was in jail, and is now out on bail, or is on the lam.

February 3, 2013 at 11:11 am

Not A Native

Consult Eric about how to consider all the evidence when making a conclusion. I’ve not posted with detailed and specific information about pot horticulture or promoted the concept that pot growers are a benign or beneficial effect on the environment or community. Neither did those posters Unk John mentioned.

But if you feel growing pot for profit is a worthy and admirable activity, you should consider that being called a pot grower a great compliment and a sign of high esteem.

February 3, 2013 at 11:59 am

Mitch

Well, regardless of the implications of calling someone a grower, tra is someone with whom I’ve conducted a very occasional correspondence (3x or so over 3 years, I’d guesstimate). S/he states s/he’s doing well, and states s/he is not a grower, though I didn’t ask and don’t particularly care.

S/he told me in the most recent correspondence to thank NAN for his or her “kind-hearted concern over [their] cyber-absence.”

February 3, 2013 at 3:53 pm

Not A Native

I’m as susceptible as anyone to ingratitude. So Eric’s reference reminded me to feel grateful to not have to scroll past multitudes of repetitive, misinforming, and narcissistic comments. I’m more grateful since it isn’t due to moderator intervention. Blog comments can be offered as evidence in criminal proceedings, defendants are usually advised to not open that door.

February 3, 2013 at 4:15 pm

Anonymous

NAN can typing!

February 3, 2013 at 4:57 pm

Not A Native

That’s your lame retort? Shove it up your ass, goatse…

February 4, 2013 at 7:09 am

bolithio

Si I finally read the article in the Independent. It was basically the same exact thing that was posted in the Lost Coast Outpost. Again, they have no controls for the amount of water being used in this “study”. It is all purely based on remote sensing and estimation. In order to make claims like “Dope could be using over 1/3 of the watersheds water supply” there has to be accurate baseline conditions to compare current flows with – and that will be the most difficult part of nailing down that number in a study.

Regardless of MJ, it is interesting (and a little scarey) to consider that population increases in the next 50 years are going to put extreme stress on people and the environments they live in – regardless of MJ. And indeed if MJ needs that much water, it and other luxury items like wine will become increasingly harder to justify growing when drinking water is scarce.

February 4, 2013 at 12:05 pm

ICU812

There was an interview with Kristin Nevidal of the Emerald Growers Association by Dennis Huber on Monday Morning Magazine (KMUD) from 7:30 to 8:00 am.

http://archive.kmud.org/mp3/kmud_130204_070000goodmorning1.mp3

Of course CDFW was not included. Again, only a one sided view and propaganda of KMUD.

February 11, 2013 at 10:28 pm

Anonymous

Good news keyboard bangers: The BBC desperately wants your “I can typing” comments:

February 17, 2013 at 9:43 am

"Henchman Of Justice"

This is why blogs should not censor or make-up special rules for only one poster like HOJ because it shows that the administrator fears what some people have to say, respond toward or wish to debate further back and forth.

example as evidenced by HOJ who sparingly visits “Spank Sims’ site” to see how far the blog comment drop-offs are now and how ole Spanky likes to steal ideas from Charles Douglas’ website: see below two posters’ thoughts,

“puff n tuff
Hank, can you put up a suggestion box? if we had a suggestion box,i would suggest we have a debate box, so if we had a difference with someone we could go to the box with it… kinda like hockey just keep it quik and get it out? again just a suggestion

curiosity
I think this is the 3rd or 4th request for something that people can have as a standing type thread?”

Anyhow, ole Spanky still curtails and molds himself to the whims of locally elected officials and those who support the tactics and games that elected officals and their cronies adhere toward.

Still laughing at ole Spanky, such a little rascal he is, and Kym Kemp too!

Sincerely,

HOJ

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