Comments on: Clif to Join me on KMUD tomorrow night

By: grouchy

grouchy — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 04:46:59 +0000

Re TPZ — I agree that everyone should have the right to build ONE residence on their land if they have an approvable building site. However, let us not forget that TPZ is a tax benefit program. For people who have owned their land for 40 years or more, the difference between TPZ value and full market value is not a lot, but if you’ve bought TPZ in the last 15 or so years, the difference can be as much as 90% or more. That is, if you own TPZ at 21st century market value you may be paying as little as 10% of the property tax you would pay if not on TPZ. Sure, you have to pay timber yield tax if you harvest your trees, but nothing requires you to harvest, and many people don’t (you’re supposed to have a management plan; but “management” does not mean harvest — much of what people do for restoration could be considered timber management). SO, since you are not paying your full weight of taxes, don’t you owe something to the rest of the taxpayers, who are making up the difference in fees, assessments (like the SRA fee that everyone’s so hot under the collar about), and/or lost services. Restrictions on TPZ means that landowners must prove they’re earning their tax breaks, that’s all.
For those of you who supported Estelle, don’t be sore winners. And don’t get too cocky, because any brand-new officeholder is going to both get and give some mighty unpleasant surprises when she or he takes office.

By: gpf

gpf — Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:28:47 +0000

Anonymous says “Oh well, Rex and Estelle ran campaigns clearly and unequivocally based on wholesale abandonment and rewrite (with real public input) of the rigged GPU. Unless they somehow totally abandon their promises which seems pretty unlikely they will do exactly what they said they would.”

Rex and Estelle promised wholesale abandonment of the GPU? I don’t remember any such promises in their campaigns. Maybe this is your interpretation or expectation?

By: i should know

i should know — Tue, 25 Sep 2012 13:04:17 +0000

A bus service you all are going to lose if you don’t start RIDING the bus……..

By: Eric Kirk

Eric Kirk — Tue, 25 Sep 2012 06:02:53 +0000

Everyone is happy that we have bus service but to imply that Mr. Clendenan created the bus service for SoHum is beyond a huge stretch. The bus service was already in the works before he was in office. He added another yes vote with the other Supes when they voted on it, but he didn’t create it.

Actually, he was very much involved in the details. The record speaks for itself.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Sep 2012 04:15:41 +0000

I didn’t support Clif and think that he was deliberately vague in his real positions on the General Plan during the campaign (and really still) but the guy has worked pretty hard on a whole variety of issues including bus service. Give him a little credit where it’s due and fight like hell to keep him from getting a chance to take a real vote on the Arcata generated General Plan. What’s really too bad is that even in their death throws the elitists refuse to work for a middle ground. Misinterpreting a momentary delay as a weakness has proved their undoing over and over again. Delusion has worked out so well for them in the past why not try it again. Oh well, Rex and Estelle ran campaigns clearly and unequivocally based on wholesale abandonment and rewrite (with real public input) of the rigged GPU. Unless they somehow totally abandon their promises which seems pretty unlikely they will do exactly what they said they would. Believing that there won’t be a third and fourth vote in January is denial of the obvious in the extreme. I guess the radicals will get what they’re asking for…

Anyway, the point was to give Clif credit for what he has accomplished. The election is over other than keeping him from ignoring the result lets leave the guy alone. He really is well meaning even if he’s wrong on some things.

By: Anonomous

Anonomous — Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:53:50 +0000

By: gpf

gpf — Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:23:49 +0000

Bus Service? Didn’t Clif also invent the internet?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:21:09 +0000

“But it looks like she won’t have Ryan’s vote to do so, and I seriously question whether she will have Virginia’s. Sometimes when politics swing too far one way or another, a new moderation takes hold. All eyes will be on Virginia, and despite my differences with some of her politics, I think she is a very reasonable woman.”

And what has overconfidence and misassessments gotten the anti crowd so far? It might be a fundimental mistake to read a momentary hesitation as a lack of committment. But hey, it’s better to lose everything than accept reality.

By: gpf

gpf — Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:19:55 +0000

So Anonymous, you say “Clif is right. Building on TPZ turns into rural residential. Call a spade a spade. Building on TPZ should not be allowed.”

OK anonymous, what is your objective? The reason for a TPZ is to preserve timberland. A residence on a parcel with timber does not diminish the timber preserve, which is either being harvested (and all taxes paid) or is being left standing for the future to decide. This leads me to beiieve that your true objective is to limit the ability of landowners to build in rural areas for reasons other than timber resource protection, For you the TPZ is a lever at hand, modified, to pry the people off their land. This is dishonest and myopic. Too bad Clif is beholden to you people.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 23 Sep 2012 02:20:23 +0000

Please name one thing Clif has done for the 2nd District that will be remembered———-BUS SERVICE