Everything Southern Humboldt and more
Very predictable liberal picks this time. No outliers.
First District Supervisor – Cheryl Seidner
Second District Supervisor – Clif Clendenen
Third District Supervisor – Mark Lovelace
Assembly – Wes Chesbro
Second District Congress – Norman Soloman
Senate – Marsha Feinland
Prop 28 - Yes
Prop 29 - Yes
Measure Y – Yes
Addendum: Oh, I forgot.
President – Obama
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June 2, 2012 at 5:26 am
Fred Mangels
A true authoritarian, as I’ve always suspected.
June 2, 2012 at 6:01 am
Anonymous
So happy not to see Dianne Feinstein on your list.
LOL @ Fred!
June 2, 2012 at 6:47 am
ED Denson
Fred, for whom would you have voted that would show less authoritianism?
June 2, 2012 at 7:36 am
Fred Mangels
State Assembly: Firenza Pini would be the main one. Chesbro is certainly a functional, if not philosophical, authoritarian who played a fairly significant role in running this state into the ground.
Any of the Democrats running for congress are authoritarians, but I’ll admit to voting for one of them myself. I’m hoping there might be a viable candidate that can beat the worst one, Jared Huffman.
Gail Lightfoot is certainly the best choice in the U.S. Senate race but I am surprised Eric didn’t pick Feinstein. I’m sure he’ll vote for her in the general election as he always does, though.
June 2, 2012 at 8:15 am
snuffy smif
dont fergit to vote for ROOSTER POO
June 2, 2012 at 8:43 am
Anonymous
feinstein and boxer are scurge among women in politics. How desperate lawson etc want to join their ranks. They are all talk, they all live very high on the hog. Feinstein doesn’t know how much a gallon of milk costs, fer crying out loud.
June 2, 2012 at 11:55 am
Eric Kirk
A true authoritarian, as I’ve always suspected.
And shared, since my second or third blog post six years ago.
June 2, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Fred Mangels
feinstein and boxer are scurge among women in politics.
And both easily win election every time they have to run. We do live in a sick state.
June 2, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Anonymous
Feinstein would be a Republican but she couldn’t win as a Republican in California and all she cares about is shoveling money into her husband’s pockets.
June 2, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Anonymous
Ever notice Fred that the states which are the most repressive against individual rights tend to be the least “authoritarian” in your eyes? Which states pass the sodomy laws? anti-abortion and anti-birth control? Book bans?
June 2, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Fred Mangels
Yep. They should work on easing up on that, don’t they?
June 2, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Fred Mangels
that should read, “shouldn’t they”.
June 2, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Eric Kirk
Ease up on bigotted discrimination and the rights of women to control their own bodies? Yeah, they should “ease up.”
June 2, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Joe Blow
Read the tea leaves, Kirk. The days of the political people (like you) are numbered. No sustainable solutions there – a proven fact.
June 2, 2012 at 3:56 pm
HUUFC
What a list, all of them are more than willing to spend other’s peoples money. I’m suprised that difi doesn’t spend enough money to suit you. At the federal level you can spend 40% more that you take in by borrowing or just printing cash. Feinland is plain scary.
June 2, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Eric Kirk
Uh, which of the candidates are not willing to spend other peoples’ money?
June 2, 2012 at 11:52 pm
j67k
Read the tea bag Eric. “Political” peoples days are numbered!!!
So BJ thinks that Democracy has no sustainable solutions? I’m curious to see his proof. But, that aside, what does he think will have sustainable solutions? Communism? Fascism? Straight up Anarchy?
Though, actually, all of those have “politics” to one degree or another, since “politics” is just human interaction between those in power. Maybe he’s waiting for the robots to take over?
I assume he actually just doesn’t know the definition of the word.
Since he is living (I assume) in a democracy he holds some power/influence. And since he is publicly expressing his opinions on it, he is performing politics. The fact that he’s unaware of it is funny.
Given the content of his post, it’s a hilarious example of ignorant irony.
June 3, 2012 at 8:48 am
Anonymous
“So BJ thinks that Democracy has no sustainable solutions? I’m curious to see his proof.”
Look out your window, 200 years of proof and counting. The model is functional, the people running it are way too corrupt. It’s come to be an impossible mess. The only thing that’s going to “save us” is serious catastrophe, which is happening as we speak. Politics as so many like to see it is crashing bigtime, for better or worse the next generation is already being readied for big changes. It’s still all under the same roof, though…faceless megabucks who control the planet’s natural resources. They are looking after theirs at the top, we are on the low end of the ladder basically fighting amongst eachother for scraps.
June 3, 2012 at 8:50 am
Eric Kirk
On the other hand, you can make that post without being tracked down and thrown into prison. It’s not enough, but it’s something.
June 3, 2012 at 11:32 am
Anonymous
You’d have to think that to not realize how insane the situation really is, eric. What if you, eric kirk, realized the government of the united states was tracking people down who actively broadcast dissent and was just as actively “neutralizing” them in one of various ways? What would you REALLY do? Pretend it’s 1984 orwell style right now, how would your behavior change? Is it cynical to imagine the situation so well as to analyze your own genuine alternate perspectives? What if the alternate perspective as best you can imagine it in this case were true? What if even the majority of alternate motives seemed just as plausible based soley on your own immediate life experience?
But anyway…everytime I see feinstein “in the media”, 10/10 times a light is put on her for being a woman…in a (very high paying) political position. “In this day and age”…etc. Whenever she campaigns, she makes special note of it herself. She’s had the high paying job for a very long time, and I don’t see anything resembling the results she still claims to be working toward. She’s been playing the party affiliation scam game long before it was an issue here. She ditched that much of her honor and integrity a long time ago, just to get the job, and is among all the others who are living proof that sellouts can and do win. She likes the money…they all do. Who wouldn’t?
June 3, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Eric Kirk
Well, I don’t have much time to pretend it’s 1984. It’s not, and the little time I have out of a very busy life to devote to politics forces me to stick with the real world. Besides, if we were to experience a dystopia in this country, it would probably be more along the lines of the Cyborg-soldier protected dystopia of Women on the Edge of Time or the techno-theocracy of A Handmaids Tale. As much as I love Orwell’s thinking and writing, 1984 wasn’t his best work. It was a bit boring and pedantic.
Let me know if you hear about any anonymous bloggers being “neutralized.”
June 3, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Anonymous
“As much as I love Orwell’s thinking and writing, 1984 wasn’t his best work. It was a bit boring and pedantic.”
Yeah but we’re not discussing reading it, it’s hopefully come to be a pop culture reference of perspective for you. You can quickly imagine cyborg soldiers and site other hypothetical scenarios, but not one in which you demonstrate a degree of humility…or something…in this case.
June 3, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Richard
Here’s my argument for voting for Adams on Tuesday:
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In the race for the 2nd Congressional District we have a unique situation with several interesting candidates and all four of the front runners in agreement on their key policy positions.
What voters should keep in mind is that we have for the first time, an open primary. This means two Democrats in this very “blue” district may well go to the run off in November.
The polling indicates that Huffman will get close to 50% of the total vote and the eleven remaining candidates will split the balance of the vote. The point being that Jared is assured of being on the November ballot and does not need your vote. Voting for him will have no affect on the outcome of the June 5th primary. So if you want your vote to make a difference, use it to choose who should get the second slot on the November ballot.
To that end, I believe the best use of your vote would be support Susan Adams.
Here’s why, she’s the candidate who would present the biggest challenge to Jared in a run off and you’ll have from June to November to further vet both candidates and decide the best choice in November.
Among the three contenders for that second slot you have Stacy Lawson, a successful business woman, but as Norm Solomon as made clear in his mailers, she is a flawed candidate. Whether you agree with Norman’s arguments or not, the issues he raises would be used by Jared to destroy Stacy in a run off. She can not win in November. Norman is unelectable for all the same reasons us liberals love him. His activism and fiery rhetoric make him unappealing to moderate and independent voters that one would need to win over in order to win a general election run off.
While Susan Adams shares most all of Norm’s liberal positions, she appeals to moderate and independent voters in spite of, not because of her liberal positions. In part due to the difference in their styles. While Norm delivers his ideals with conviction, it can come off as lecturing to those not in agreement, where as Susan listens and involves all viewpoints in the conversation as she works to build consensus.
While Susan is a life long Democrat, she would be preferred by many non-Democrats in a November run off with Jared because she is not backed by the Democratic Party Machine as is he.
Susan also has the closest ties to the entire Northcoast, with family still living on their ancestral Mendocino Ranch as well a brother who lives here in Carlotta, Humboldt County. Adams also has a compelling life story of working class roots with 33 years as a registered nurse (and CNA member), smarts, with a PhD being a professor of nursing, and now having served three terms as a county supervisor.
June 3, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Eric Kirk
I picked Norman Solomon because he’s the lefty us liberals love. I don’t think he, Adams, Lawson, or anyone else can beat Huffman in November, but Norman will give him the best debate and frame the issues well.
I was very disappointed in Norman’s hit piece mailers against Stacey Lawson. It was not an appeal to our higher selves. But I don’t think that’s who he is. I think he took some bad advice.
I support him because he has a grasp of the issues, and will force Huffman to make promises to his left for which we just might be able to hold him accountable. Stacey and Susan have the same positions, but I don’t think they would frame the debate as effectively.
June 4, 2012 at 2:16 am
j67k
To Anon. “Look out the window” is not a proof. A proof is a logical construct that supports a conclusion using mathematical models.
The disconnect you seem to have is that you see a very real problem – the lack of sustainability on our current society, but then randomly point at things saying “That’s it!” The fact that there is a problem is NOT proof that you know what the root cause is.
The basic problem is that we use too much. There are too many people using too much of the planets resources. Yet, many idiots cling to the fantasy that there’s “plenty” for everyone and everyone’s 8-12 kids & their kids…
It’s like that inane movie “Forest Gump” said “Life is like a box of chocolates…” [If you are too stupid to read the box] “You never know what you’re gonna get.”
June 4, 2012 at 4:40 am
Richard
Well that’s the one place I would love to be able to prove you wrong Eric. While I don’t think Susan’s favored to get to second place district wide, if she does she could absolutely upset Jared in November (and his camp knows this). The fact that she’s endorsed by BOTH, Lovelace and Bass is testimony to her “cross over” appeal. Going door to door I can attest to the fact that an incredibly wide range of folks are attracted to her once they learn about her and in a two person race many more would get to learn about her. A lot of people resent the presumptive way in which Jared’s been presented to us and are a looking for an alternative to the establishment “status quo” candidate, others like her liberal positions, others her background in healthcare, her rural roots and so on. But where she’s the most effective is when people meet her, they just like HER.
Keep in mind that she’d get 90% of Norman’s supporters right out of the shoot and 50% of Stacy, all on day one. Pretty much everyone who’s a non-Huffman voter would be a potential supporter (once the dust from the primary settles, many more would come over from the other non-Huffman camps) and there will be a much larger pool of voters in November, but the main advantage she has over Norman is that even all of the Republican’s would consider her for if they have to “hold their nose and vote for a Democrat”, they’d rather it not be the “party favorite”. And in truth she is more “independent” then Jared. This was my analysis back in October when I endorser her and sign up to work on her campaign and it’s only been reinforced over these last seven months.
But then what would I know about winning upset victories…
June 4, 2012 at 5:24 am
Mitch
Eric wrote:
“It was not an appeal to our higher selves. But I don’t think that’s who he is. I think he took some bad advice.”
Well that certainly has a familiar ring…
June 4, 2012 at 5:38 am
Stephen
This is to let Richard know that just because Susan hasn’t distanced herself from you I won’t be voting for her now. Or Solomon. Both now have shown themselves the political animals that you types are–which means you’re all untrustworthy liars and will say whatever you think it takes to win office, e.g. Solomon’s hit piece and yours for Susan. Just thought I’d like you to know that your efforts have cost one voter who will urge others to boycott both Prog candidates.
June 4, 2012 at 7:29 am
Anonymous
“Look out the window” is not a proof. A proof is a logical construct that supports a conclusion using mathematical models. ”
Trolling idiot.
June 4, 2012 at 9:50 am
suzy blah blah
“You never know what you’re gonna get”
-exaclty!
June 4, 2012 at 11:04 am
Richard
Hit piece?
June 4, 2012 at 11:29 am
Eric Kirk
Don’t bother Richard. Stephen marches to his own drummer.
June 4, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Not A Native
Guess I’ll toss a coin in the voting booth. Both candidates are desirable, and none of the arguments that compare them are very compelling to me.
“Electibility” falls flat as a discriminator and so does “Lefty Stalwart”. Truth is, guess I’m just not that concerned with the prospect of Huffman winning. Seems like we’ll get a good representative under any scenario, the biggest difference is simply personalities.
June 4, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Stephen
No, there’s more to it than that. When Susan Adams uses identity fraud experts like Richard Salzman, a.k.a. who knows how many false identities of which he was prosecuted for using several, especially onerous when he was campaigning for Paul Gallegos and adding fictitious people to the list of Gallegos public supporters.
I’m just sick and tired of people like Salzman and Heraldo and Eric here thinking that WINNING is everything in politics. These guys are not here to actually help their communities. They are here to WIN. They treat politics as if it were game, they treat it just like stock market traders do who care zip for the companies they are dealing with, they only care for the bottom line- WINNING. Watching the NUMBERS. Winning more money for stock speculators and winning elections. Who cares about the issues. It’s only WINNING that counts.
If you want to see Humboldt County government and national government run the way its being run, by these ethically challenged game-players using our lives as pawns in political plays, then go ahead, fall for their bullshit. But I’m through with voting for politicians who think like this. Winning elections isn’t the issue, folks. It’s what’s behind the posters, behind the canned speeches, behind the talking points, that really matters. The long road to ethical office holding where an elected official cares more about their constituency’s concerns than their vote and what to say, how to say it, to get it.
Clean up our political system now. Don’t vote for any candidates who use slimy identity frauds for their campaigns.
June 4, 2012 at 1:35 pm
j67k
Yes, I’m a big mean troll.
I’m not a people person. I like people, but I hate stupidity, especially willful ignorance. Being outwardly polite to someone, but feeling that they are idiots, is a form of cowardice. One because you’re unwilling to be thought of as ‘mean’, and two because you are afraid that you might be exposed as being wrong.
Even though I think your reasoning is easily seen a fallacious, at least you had the courage to put your dumb idea out there. I have more respect for that than the far more common silent arrogance that people use to cover their lazy ignorance.
@Suzy My point is that you know exactly what you are gonna get, if you read the box. All boxes have an ingredient list, and most have a list of the individual pieces.
June 4, 2012 at 4:28 pm
suzy blah blah
-okay i admit that maybe you’re possibly right. i’m gonna make it a ritual from now on to open a box of chocolates each election day while suzy watches the returns.
June 4, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Anonymous
“The fact that there is a problem is NOT proof that you know what the root cause is.”
trolling idiot, read what you wrote, which is to what I responded. Is our government excercising sustainability? There’s over 200 years of “evidence” right outside your window every morning. If you feel the need to wait longer until you decide something is seriously wrong, then you’re a trolling idiot dunce moron. There is TOO MUCH PROOF that the people in charge are raping the planet to death. Your argument is nonsense.
You say there is a solution? YOU bare the burden of proof, because the land and the water and the air is more polluted today than it was yesterday, and it will be even more polluted every new day until we are both dead.
June 4, 2012 at 8:12 pm
j67k
As long as you read the box carefully. If you have a peanut allergy, don’t eat ones with peanuts…
Oh yeah! And ALWAYS vote for Kucinich when you can. Especially if you’re allergic to elephants.
June 4, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Conscience of the north coast
Are these picks what you hope to happen, or what you think will happen.
June 4, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Eric Kirk
Hope to happen.
June 5, 2012 at 3:12 am
j67k
It would be a happy happenstance if what you hope to have happen happens to have a hope of happening…
Sorry… But, you guys started it.
June 5, 2012 at 7:34 am
moviedad
Don’t read the box Suzy; that’s how they get you!
June 5, 2012 at 9:04 am
Anonymous
It would be a helluva happy happenstance, however, having had hardly heard something something holographic hippopotamus.
June 5, 2012 at 10:22 am
suzy blah blah
-i know what you mean –there’s a lot of false promises made through exaggerated promotion and false advertising etc … But Dad, i’m afraid theyve already got suzy anyway. Theyve got me bad. Im especially addicted to the the tangerine creames … but no worries, i never read the labels. i used to reach in with my eyes closed and pick one at random, but then i found out that the box has an intelligent design to it. So now i pour them out into a bag and shuffle them around and create my own random universe … and throw the box away with religion and the rest of the trash. So far, from my experience, theyre all good. But if i ever should happen to put one with an identifiable slimy fraudulent taste to it in my mouth ill spit it out right away. I just hope i dont spit it out onto the screen while Estelle or Clif are smiling at me.
June 5, 2012 at 7:38 pm
j67k
Anon, you forgot the middle part…
It would be a helluva happy happenstance, however, having had hardly heard how harvey hicupped hilariously. He heartened hardily hearing his holy holographic hippopotamus hymn.
Suzy, you sound like a true force of entropy. A chocolate Shiva…
June 6, 2012 at 12:47 pm
suzy blah blah
-in the endtimes, after election day, when terrible shiva rides the elephant and puts the world in his/her mouth, and entropy melts away the chocolate coat of Babylon, the true inner identity of the universe will be revealed –is it a café au lait truffle. or a raspberry vanilla fudge delight, or a coconut royal creame bon bon? –or is it something we’re all allergic to?
June 6, 2012 at 1:31 pm
JK
Probably the latter…
“I think that God has a sick sense of humour. And, when I die, I expect to find him laughing…” -D.M.
June 6, 2012 at 2:19 pm
suzy blah blah
-the antidote to the allergy is to reach out and touch faith!!!
June 9, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Joe Blow
Kirk says: Let me know if you hear about any anonymous bloggers being “neutralized.”
You and others do it all the time, I should know.
Since you’re so UP on all that’s going on in this country, you might explain WHY the Occupy Movement is a Horizontal movement WITHOUT a political agenda or leaders voicing their worthless opinions? Like I said, if you actually had a clue you’d see what happening right under your nose while you spend (most) all your time supporting and enabling these bought professional political whores while they sell-out and loot the country in search of some legitimate right to exist.
June 9, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Anonymous
>>…enabling these bought professional political whores while they sell-out and loot the country in search of some legitimate right to exist.<<
sound a whole lot like estelle