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Off death row. But his supporters aren’t celebrating. Yes, I realize he’s still in jail, but I suspect that very few on any side of the issue really believed he would be executed.
I’m against the death penalty anyway, but I’ve always considered his trial a sham. That is not to say that I am convinced of his innocence.
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December 21, 2011 at 10:27 am
Erasmus
Even Michael Moore has expressed his doubts about his innocence — until his remark caused such a furor that it was excised from subsequent editions of his book (“Stupid White Men,” I believe).
December 21, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Eric Kirk
There is one plausible scenario to support his innocence in conjunction with his approach to the case. As I understand the testimony, his brother was being beaten by the officer as he rushed to the scene. It is possible that in the melee his brother shot him and could have been the individual that another witness saw leave the scene. It could explain the vagueness of his defense as he wouldn’t necessarily want to defense the charges only to have his brother face them. It’s a possibility that nobody discusses, and you can see plausible reasons for the silence on the argument from all sides.
I should also say that if Mumia did indeed pull the trigger in response to the beating of his brother, he should not be convicted of first degree murder in any case.
It’s been awhile since I read up on the case, but I did find the prosecution’s evidence compelling notwithstanding the problems with the trial. But I don’t know enough to judge for certain one way or another.
Of course, there are folk on both sides who will freak out with anyone not following cannon on the issue. And he makes an excellent impression on radio.
December 21, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Anonymous
He should be free.
http://www.millions4mumia.org/
December 21, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Ernie's Place
I believe 99% in the death penalty, and 1% in life sentences. To use popular numbers. But, I also believe that there should be absolutely no room for doubt before a jury should find a death verdict. It looks to me like there is plenty of room for doubt in this case. I’m glad that I wasn’t on the jury.
December 21, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Eric Kirk
Here are some of his supporters’ arguments.
http://www.freemumia.com/
http://homepages.sover.net/~foodsong/mumia1.htm
Here are some counter arguments
http://www.danielfaulkner.com/newsarticles/others/hesguilty/hesguilty.html
(the last few paragraphs)
And so it drags on for Maureen Faulkner, who was just 24 when this nightmare began, and wishes the federal judge would have left things as they were.
In past court appearances, she has been spat upon and cursed by Abu-Jamal supporters, for no reason other than her unwavering belief in justice for her husband’s killer.
“Now I’ll probably have to relive the whole thing once more,” she says. “I’ll have to hear Mumia supporters screaming at me and pointing their fingers like they’re shooting at me. It’s been over 20 years now. Is there any regard for the survivors of crime?”
However passionately you feel about Mumia and his claim of innocence, if you’re spitting on the widow of the dead officer you’re an asshole beyond reason.
Here is another article.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/mumia_abujamal_still_guilty.html
Marc Cooper of Nation lamented the cult around Mumia a decade ago.
http://motherjones.com/politics/2000/02/whats-mumia-got-do-it
And the lively discussion afterwards.
http://motherjones.com/politics/2000/02/mumia-pro-and-con-0
December 21, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Anonymous
The thing about the death sentence is…I could never be tried by a jury of my peers if any one of the jury believed in a death sentence. How does one begin to think about punishment before putting themselves in the shoes of the punished?
Has anybody looked into supermax prisons, as is pelican bay? They are torture chambers. Imprisoning another human being within a tiny chamber to spend their entire life alone isn’t something I agree with either. The only people I can imagine to deserve such punishment are the people who wilfully punish others in such ways.
December 21, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Eric Kirk
And here’s a website maintained by or on behalf of Faulkner’s widow.
http://justice.danielfaulkner.com/
December 22, 2011 at 5:50 am
moviedad
When you hear all the circumstances it’s pretty sure that Mumia killed that officer. When you hear all the details involved; most of us would have killed that man.
Wasn’t Mumia’s brother killed? I thought I read that he was killed and Mumia lost it and took his brother’s gun and killed the guy. That must be why he lost every re-trial; people believe that if it was their little brother they would have done the same thing.
But, had Jamal not been black, had the offender not been a cop; it would have been justifiable homicide, or at least Manslaughter.
But no one in the “justice” system is going to allow a manslaughter charge against a police officer.
December 22, 2011 at 6:41 am
Fred Mangels
But no one in the “justice” system is going to allow a manslaughter charge against a police officer.
Usually not, but I recall reading a brief snippet on this same issue some years ago. There was a guy who killed some cop in Missouri or Mississippi (believe it or not). I think the cop was described as the Sheriff. The killing was ruled self defense.
As I recall the defense proved the cop set out to kill the defendant and he was only defending himself. Hard for me to believe if only because of where it happened.
Wish I could recall where I read that so I could give more information.
December 22, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Anonymous
Mumia is a political prisoner and should be released immediately. Every minute that he remains in jail is a crime.
December 22, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Dave Kirby
This case reminds me of Eldridge Cleaver’s case. Cleaver wrote ‘Soul on Ice” and became a hero of the new left. It was some years later that he admitted that he and his comrades did in fact set a trap to ambush the Oakland P.D. . Even thugs can be eloquent. Cleaver went on to claim that its every mans right to beat his woman if she gets out of line. Do I think Mumia’s guilty…yes…does he deserve to be put to death I don’t know.
December 24, 2011 at 10:00 am
Anonymous
Blah blah blah. I am opposed to the death penalty, but not because I don’t think certain evil/bad people deserve to die for their crimes/actions. I am opposed to the death penalty because of the cost.
The USofA, being the greatest country in the world, provides an almost unlimted appeals for persons sentenced to death. And as most, this segment of the prison system doesn’t pay for their own lawyers. The appeals lawyers end up being paid by the State, that is the taxpayer, the victims. I’d rather pay to keep these people locked up forever than to pay shister lawyers to keep hammering away at endless appeals.
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December 26, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Anonymous
He is so not guilty Free mumia! you guy’s are wrong do the research .
December 27, 2011 at 7:57 am
Anonymous
He is so guilty ! do the research !
December 27, 2011 at 10:45 pm
JK
“That is not to say that I am convinced of his innocence.” Do you need to be? If you aren’t convinced of his guilt you need to assume he’s innocent. If a society condemns a person because it’s not sure of their innocence, or because the crime is so horrible that “someone” has to pay, then IT is guilty along with everyone in it.
It doesn’t matter if you are against the condemnation. It doesn’t matter if you deny any personal guilt. Responsibility is NOT subjective, it is a quantifiable fact. Whether or not you accept it or understand it is irrelevant. Ignorance is a reason, not an excuse.
Unfortunately, LEGAL responsibility is subject to interpretation. Many people seem to feel that if enough people agree with them, that that somehow influences reality. They huddle together in vicious little mobs screaming “Burn the witch!!”, or more recently “Torture the terrorist!!”
The ironic thing is that most of these frightened little weasels claim to be religious. Their book even has a statement ‘Judge not, lest thou be judged’ or something like that, I’m not fluent in god-talk. Seems pretty clear though.
PS- Two things before all the epsilons start squealing about me judging them…
1:I’m an atheist (but would love to be wrong & am perfectly comfortable with the balance of good/harm in my life. Even with all these “Christians” in my society dragging my morality rating down)
2:I’m judging a behavior not individuals. If you think I might be describing behaviors you exhibit. Stop it! No amount of brutality will make you safer, or even truly feel safer. Let’s join all the other “civilized” countries and ban state sponsored homicide & at least pretend to ban torture. At least be ashamed & forced to hide such repugnant actions.
January 18, 2012 at 3:18 am
stfu mumia
Meh. Everytime I hear he or amy Goodman crying about this case I want to unpledge my
Kmud $$. This jerk is an an admitted murderer whose own brother wouldn’t testify on his behalf . His gun. His bullet. His own admission
of guilt (in hospital)
Fuk cop killer mumia. Anyone who admires this POS needs to find a real hero. Like Faulkner’s wife..lol http://www.amazon.com/Murdered-Mumia-Life-Sentence-Injustice/dp/1599213761/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top …”Maureen Faulkner is a genuine American heroine. While influential people garner cheap headlines with stories of false injustice, Maureen Faulkner fights behind the scenes and in public to preserve the good name of her husband. This is a real justice story…”