I can’t believe I forgot to post this as I have been asked to facilitate, but the meeting is tonight at 6:00 at the Veteran’s’ Hall in Garberville. The last meeting apparently became so contentious that the Sheriff had to be called. I am hoping we will fare much better tonight.
It’s in less than an hour. See you there.
Addendum: Well, it went very well. Very mello by Sohum standards. We had an incident before it started which was defused – by both of the antagonists. We had a little episode involving mental illness – of someone I care about but who was disrupting the meeting before she left of her own volition (I’m really scared for her after tonight). There was a little give and take between speakers and audience members, but not much really.
What we learned is that the problem is for some much worse than it appears, and some of the stories were a bit scary and sad.
On the up side, it looks like there’s something of an action group which may come out of the deal thanks to Tracy Bear who took names of interested people.
Thanks to John and Paul for putting this together. It may actually lead to something. What, I don’t know.
And on my way back to the office, I briefly enjoyed a terrific party at the Town Square. It’s still going on – live amplified music and all!
Second Addendum: Both Kym Kemp and Ernie Branscomb attended the meeting and wrote about it.
I just want to add now that I have a little time – when I was in college back in the 1980s, which is starting to seem like a distant memory, I was very involved in homeless issues. We had a few homeless living in the woods behind UC Santa Cruz, who would come in to campus and make use of the library and converse with students, play chess, etc. They did no harm and in my view actually added to the texture of my college experience as I learned quite a bit from my conversations with them. They tended to be well-learned and well-read individuals who simply lacked some ability or drive to live conventionally in the system as we have it set up. Eventually they were run off, and I viewed it as not only wrong (before I understood the intricacies of insurance coverage and liability law – f—ing lawyers!) but a detriment to the atmosphere of a school which I already believed suffered due to physical separation from the “real world.”
Later I volunteered with a Catholic soup kitchen/shelter, started by a man named Peter Carota, whom I believe has become a Franciscan Friar since I knew him. It had a different name at the time, but the facility is now called the St. Francis Catholic Kitchen (and now has a full non-profit status with a Board of Directors, etc.). Friar Carota had been a very successful Realtor who was deeply Catholic, and when he traveled to Latin America at a point in his life he witnessed poverty which made him “scream at God.” He would later say that he came to realize that what he witnessed was “God screaming at him,” and he returned to the US, folded up his Real Estate practice, sold his two homes and all of his antiques, and used the money to open a soup kitchen. Over the objections of neighbors and the local business establishment he purchased an auto-shop building and began to feed an average of 100 people per day, drawing volunteers from all walks of life who served the needy much like a restaurant – with dignity being a paramount value despite all of the obvious difficulties of taking such a project on. He enlisted the aid of a retired chef who had cooked for the Italian restaurant Adolf’s, which was located a mere blocks away. The minestrone soup he made for the kitchen remains the best I have ever tasted, and many of us who volunteered reveled in the irony that we or anyone willing could eat as much as we want or purchase a bowl for five dollars down the street.
I took interest when I had lost some interest in radical politics (I’ve probably posted a dozen times on various issues why) and was disturbed by a “troll bashing” campaign initiated by a group of local cromags (see, homeless live under bridges, just like trolls – get it?) in which encampments were physically attacked and at least one homeless person hospitalized by, essentially, masked vigilantes in different in my opinion from the Klan or similar groups. There had been a bit of a backlash, partly in response to stories much like those I heard on Friday evening, and probably partly due to alienation of boredom of teenagers acting under perceived approval based upon comments made by their parents.
Either way, the incidents disturbed me, and as political activism had failed to deliver on certain promises, I flirted with religion. Peter was a very powerful influence met through a Catholic ex-girlfriend who had also been a powerful influence. Add to the mix a very charismatic professor hot on liberation theology, and I began a journey of sorts where I “met” such outstanding religious figures, either in person or in print, as the Berrigan Brothers, Thomas Merton, Dorothy Day, Jim Wallis, the Sanctuary Movement defendants, Jesuits, Franciscans, etc. And I became so impressed with Peter that I committed to staffing the shelter every Tuesday night (I still remember penning much of my undergrad thesis on his kitchen butcher block with lots of snoring in the hall and the occasional pounding on the door by people in need, mentally ill, angry neighbors, or police in search of someone who “might” be in the building (no, we didn’t let them in to wake people up without a warrant, and they never had one when I was there).
It was empowering to me – more so than any demonstration or civil disobedience. I could see the difference I was making, instead of dreaming of some golden age future or merely reacting helplessly to an invasion of a small Carribean Island or the funding of “moderately repressive regimes” tolerated for cold war strategy and so we could buy bananas for 37 cents a bunch. But it wasn’t always ideal. I dealt with angry and ill people. It wasn’t about the gratitude, although that was abundant as well if not universal. I invited fellow students who were put off by the religion and would tell me that I was wasting time because I was merely addressing the symptoms rather than the root causes of the problems, to which I would respond with my own smug sense of superiority (yeah, you can have it no matter which position you take), “well the root cause of an empty belly is actually addressed quite well with a sandwich.” I loved that line. It played upon their liberal guilt, and sometimes, despite my smugness, it actually generated a positive response. College students can be self-centered and focused on the wrong priorities, but they also tend to be fairly bright and self-reflective in the right ways.
But I also felt a smug moral superiority to people such as many of the mostly women who spoke on Friday night. As maybe some of them lump all homeless together, I sometimes lumped them with the “troll bashers” and the “culturally isolated” smug middle class sensibilities of those living on cul-de-sacs in Burlingame with lava yards and scallop shell sinks (actually, that was a line, and while Hillsborough has many cul-de-sacs, there aren’t quite so many in Burlingame).
Peter, who overheard one such conversation, met with me privately and without putting me on the defensive, tried to teach me the virtue of humility and “judge not lest you judge.” Look, he is, as I said, deeply Catholic. He opposes choice. He probably adopts the Catholic line on homosexuality (which is evolving). He supports the hierarchy of the Church and believes in Papal infallibility. But he treats nobody with disrespect. Nobody. And he walks the talk. He is, as my former girlfriend describes, somewhat otherworldly. He is focused on what is good in his eyes, and he sees that as “God.” I cannot judge him.
He knows that the fear expressed on Friday night is real. He knows that his services probably contribute to that fear. Unlike the proposed outhouse, his services actually do draw people to Santa Cruz – not just the homeless we see every day, but carnies, migrant workers, and occasionally a displaced family. He understands the frustration with him from various members of the community.
But there is nothing quite so profound in a liberal arts education that can even match the impact when you hear a knock on the door and outside in the rain is a man, woman, and baby with nowhere else to go. It leaves and impression on you. And you learn from those who have humility under their belief in God, that appearance does not dictate true need or whom is deserving. Harmless people look frightening. Frightening people can look harmless. Not all homeless are mentally ill. Not all mentally ill are homeless.
But all of that said, I remarked at the end of the meeting on Friday evening, our perspectives are impacted by our experiences. Business people see things differently from the rest of us. Homeless people see things differently from the rest of us. And sometimes, women, children, and seniors see things differently from the rest of us. I have never been verbally abused by a homeless person in Garberville (plenty of times in Santa Cruz, but I was right in the middle of it). About four out of five of those who described scary run-ins on Friday evening are women. It doesn’t matter that I felt safe after the meeting was over to walk back to my office. If a woman cannot feel just as safe, or a senior, or a child, something is wrong. And unlike 25 years ago I have a family now. I see things differently. It brings up instincts and fears that I, nor Peter really (whom I will always love and deeply respect, even if he didn’t quite bring me to convert), had to deal with at the time.
Jim Truitt is right. The homeless are here. They are pretty much everywhere except in communities willing to partake in a callousness most of the rest of us can not stomach – and they are even sometimes enduring in those communities. We cannot eliminate the problem. We can only mitigate it and perhaps manage it.
I urge people to keep the discussion going, and to join in the follow-up efforts.

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October 7, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Anonymous
It would seem ta me, dat if da Parks Board take it upon itself ta include da Vet’s Park down at da Communitys Parks, then it could be a Park in a Park. That be what da Community Park be fo, right. Theea be already pit pots, water an peoples livin der 24/7. Seems like a peace of cake. No brainer. Best compromise – aww yea foo
October 7, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Bunny
Please tell us what happened.
October 7, 2011 at 10:14 pm
R Scott LaMorte
I watched a local resident totally lose his shit and start screaming at a transient homeless hippy kid yesterday. WTF is up with all the hatred?
October 8, 2011 at 7:28 am
Skunk
Solutions:
1. Encourage volunteerism. That’s how and when many of us were assisted. Ask a transient what good they’ve done today before forking over a tithe. The Mateel meal should ask everyone who eats to help out the center, clean up Redway or help somewhere else in need. This will instill pride and a sense of community.
2. Encourage self-government. Since the death of Red Riley a few years ago now, there has been no “Mayor” of Redway to show people the ropes. Speak to the folks at DeMulling Plaza and get to know exactly what’s going on. It’s not a monolith and there are leaders there.
3. Bathrooms are a no brainer. Three portapotties in Garberville, minimum and Redway, too. This is a right and should be the case in every American Community. It is simply the right thing to do. I’ve got money to spend and had to pee in a jug yesterday because I couldn’t find a toilet.
4. Hire the the people we’re concerned to clean up the streets and monitor themselves. This is an ancient strategy and again, invests the homeless and transients in the community and provides a line of communication.
5. I think the Chamber should encourage businesses to hire private security as well, if none of the above works. Not an optimum solution but stop complaining and do something.
6. I’m pretty generous and open and consider no one better or worse than anyone, but I never give money to anyone younger and healthier than I am. Let people know they can fill out employment forms as there continues to be a labor shortage here.
Some thoughts for Saturday morning.
October 8, 2011 at 7:46 pm
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October 8, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Bolithio
Willow creek has a super nice public bathroom.
October 9, 2011 at 11:31 am
moviedad
Damn it! Now they’ll all come here……
Ha! just kidding, we already have them.
There are Hordes here to “Trim” funny thing is no one is taking complete strangers up to their homes to work….go figure.
October 9, 2011 at 2:21 pm
ED Denson
Anyone trying to come up with practical grass roots solutions to homelessness, even partial ones, soon will see the justice in the right’s complaints about government regulations. You want to feed people, get a certified kitchen; you want to employ them, get a payroll tax number and liability insurance; you want to give them practical things like sleeping bags, watchout for police seizures of homeless people’s property to encourage them to “move along.” You want to make small but effective shelters – watch out for zoning laws, construction laws, housing laws. In short almost any practical effort an individual wants to take to make things better for the homeless is illegal, or requires a considerable investment in money and time to get a permit for a highly restricted version of it before you can start. Our reward for living under these restrictions is improved public health, better housing stock, safer food, more pleasant communities. The downside: the homeless. They suffer so we can live better. Like that tradeoff?
October 9, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Eric Kirk
But Ed, homeless in Europe are but a fraction of what we have here, and their economies are much more tightly regulated, with property rights at much lower a premium. Something is missing in the equation.
October 9, 2011 at 3:19 pm
tra
The difference is that actually having a functional social safety net (as in most of Europe) means fewer people “hit bottom” in the first place.
October 9, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Eric Kirk
tra – well, yeah. In other words, “big government.”
October 9, 2011 at 4:26 pm
chamomile
What’s missing in the equation is that many European countries have a better welfare system, so there aren’t as many homeless as people are put in government housing and given enough benefits to live on.
October 9, 2011 at 4:40 pm
tra
Eric,
We don’t need our government to be any “bigger,” we just need to stop wasting so much of its resources on foreign invasions and occupations, the failed War on Drugs, the prison-industrial complex and so on.
October 9, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Black Flag
government? why not do things on a personal level outside the system? isn’t that how you pot heads bought land in the first place?
pot must be making you greedy and fat…..
October 9, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Not A Native
From my experience locally, I feel that people who are afraid of someone simply because that person appears to be homeless are projecting their insecurities. The violent crimes that happen here aren’t randomly perpetrated by homeless. So to be afraid of homeless people out of concern for violence is simply irrational.
Now, many homeless people act “strangly” or erratically and they’re likely to be on drugs or mentallly ill. But frankly, the many ADHD and Tourette’s people I encounter and who act out are more upsetting to me personally. And there’s a fair number of just rude, inconsiderate, pissed off, or selfish people around here who also act in annoying ways.
Fact is, almost all homeless people are so beaten down, they pose no threat to anyone. The few that are dangerous are a minority among the opportunistically criminal populations in HumCo. If you’re afraid of being harmed and feel vulnerable, your only certain strategy is to not go without a bodyguard into public spaces. Thats just my opinion.
October 9, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Eric Kirk
NAN – Some of the actions described on Friday night were actually more than merely acting strangely. Women and teenagers do not feel safe on the streets of Redway and Garberville because of some of the incidents, and there was a recent incident in which a man threw coffee on a woman who was asking him not to block a business entryway which has rattled a few nerves. KMUD will be airing some of the stories, hopefully on Monday night, and I’m told that the sound for entire meeting will be available online.
October 9, 2011 at 7:01 pm
Not A Native
Eric, has anyone in Garberville/Redway recently been accosted, treated rudely, insulted, or just plain dissed by someone who wasn’t homeless?
October 9, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Eric Kirk
Certainly, but there appears to be a clear pattern with what even some former homeless speakers were calling “a new generation.”
Mind you, I agree. There are plenty of aggressive jerks who aren’t homeless. And I am not suggesting any particular course of action, except to make help available for the willing. I am simply suggesting that when women say that they don’t feel safe on the streets of Garberville in broad daylight, we ought to listen.
October 10, 2011 at 7:30 am
Erasmus
There are no —- zero! — homeless people where I live (in U.P. Michigan). Yes, weather plays a big role, but so do real estate prices and income disparity. The economy is far poorer up here than it is in Humboldt County, and we certainly don’t have more social services (“welfare”) available. Look to Europe all you want (it’s the favorite way for the Left to slur their native land, so I won’t ask anyone to break a pleasant habit), but you might look to the many regions of the country where some of the pathologies you deplore are non-existent. (And we lack capital punishment too.)
October 10, 2011 at 8:32 am
Not A Native
Eric, I guess what I’m saying is that unless all sides of a dispute are heard, any conclusion reached is a kangaroo court. It should be the weighing of facts, not number of people. As a lawyer, you certainly know how easily sympathy, economic position, and reputation can result in unfairnesses and injustices.
October 10, 2011 at 8:51 am
Mitch
Erasmus,
Do you understand what “welfare” is for the typical homeless person in Humboldt with no kids? It’s a program called General Relief that will provide a person with a loan of UP TO about $300 per month for a limited time if they have no assets and no work. They deduct if you confess to picking up cans for the recycling fee. It is pure mean-spiritedness in action, and they bill you (at great, wasteful taxpayer expense) forever after. And you’d better not have any assets, like a car valued at more than a thousand dollars. (I’m not sure what the actual limit is, but it’s low.)
Yes, if you have children, the State of California has not been anxious to punish your children for your poverty, so there will be funds available. But if you are a “traveler,” the myth of Humboldt welfare is just that — myth. There’s probably work available trimming buds in the underground economy. But that is WORK, whether legal or not.
October 10, 2011 at 11:02 am
Anonymous
“Certainly, but there appears to be a clear pattern”
Eric, what “clear pattern”?
It is well documented that many people in Counties south of Humboldt get up every morning just like you and me. Put on their “homeless uniform” and “cardboard sign” leave for work down on freeway on-ramps, shopping parking lots and gas stations asking for money. This is their job, they are self-employed living on hand outs and its steady easy work. Without showing an income, paying tax (state or fed) and at the same time collecting every last drop of state or fed assistance they can milk out of the system.
I had dinner at the Mateel Cafe the other night, after leaving and walking to my car, a man about 20-25 came up from behind me, asked for some money to get something to eat. I said no, but asked him to come back inside with me and I would buy him a meal. NO, the man said and walked away. I don’t give people money on the street, I have always wanted to buy them food or gas or ever they said they wanted the money for. And you know what, only two people have ever taken me up on my offer. The funny thing about one of them, I saw her trying to sell the food I bought her outside in the parking lot.
There is no answer for this so called “problem”. People are going to do what ever, for what ever reason. It doesn’t have to make sense to you, you are not willing to live that way. It would be like asking a white guy what it’s like being a person of color. You will never know until its you.
Maybe signs posted in Garberville & Redway: Don’t give money to what you think homeless people look like! If you want to get rid of your “clear pattern” stop giving money to people on the street.
October 10, 2011 at 11:33 am
anonomous says
hey some of the people that are the “transients” are not just regular folks that are down on their luck. the cops just arrested a “transient” that was caught at the arcata resource center who was suspected of murdering a woman back east.
and what about the “transient” that threw a scalding cup of coffee on the bank manager in G-ville last summer? or the “transient” that recently slit one of the other “transients” throats because he wouldn’t give him beer money? why isn’t there more discussion about the danger and violence that some of these “transients” bring into our community?
October 10, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Eric Kirk
NAN – the homeless were well represented at the meeting.
October 10, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Bolithio
If people chose to beg for money to support themselves, I don’t think it really falls within the ‘easy-life’ category.
October 10, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Eric Kirk
why isn’t there more discussion about the danger and violence that some of these “transients” bring into our community?
Um, well, that’s part of what last Friday’s meeting was about.
You know, looking at about four or five posts in this thread, I have to wonder whether some of the posters here even bothered to read my post before posting. Or did I accidentally type it in another language?
October 10, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Not A Native
Eric was the ‘poster child’ person accused of unprovoked coffee throwing there?
Or did you listen to the tax paying, solid citizen, respectable, and “known to be a good person” business woman’s tale, cluck your tongue, nod in sympathy, and accept it as the total truth, as you related it here?
BTW I’ve been in bars where drinks(and bottles) were thrown in people’s faces. Sometimes the perp was the thrower, sometimes the throwee, and sometimes both.
October 10, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Anonymous
“NAN – the homeless were well represented at the meeting”
How can you know this Eric? Was it a gut feeling you had. How do you know the homeless wanted to be represented by anyone?
Please Eric, how can you tell the difference between a “transient human being” and a “homeless human being”?
October 10, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Sonia Baur
I have lived in the town of Garberville proper for over 30 years and walk the streets for exercise, often in the evenings. I have never felt unsafe, (although I have been unpleasantly startled a few times by fierce sounding dogs who reside on Maple Lane).
I heard the story about the lady who got coffee spilled on her, but when I heard it she was in a bank next to a pop-corn machine. Maybe someone did have coffee spilled on them by someone. Let us hope it is the worst thing that ever happens to her.
Some people seem to be uncommonly fearful. I think if they traveled more, met more different kinds of people, saw different types of living situations- they might become “desensitized” (and have more fun).
October 11, 2011 at 6:49 am
anonomous says
I am not fearful at all in our town. I have never had anything bad happen……however that doesn’t mean that there is not violence happening to other people in town by some of these “transients”. and BTW…the cup of coffee was not “Spilled” on the bank manager it was purposefully Thrown. Why do people want to continue to minimize these incidents?
October 11, 2011 at 8:52 am
Anonymous
Being desensitized is not the answer Sonia.
October 11, 2011 at 9:02 am
Not A Native
Thank you Sonia, seems that several story versions are circulating……Eric???
October 11, 2011 at 11:10 am
Anne on a Mouse
Eric gets my vote because he stands for the women and children. Not the homeless women and children –he’s concerned about the middle class who have a right to go shopping in peace.
October 11, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Eric Kirk
(sigh).
October 11, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Ernie's Place
Sorry Eric, “sigh” is my line!
It is strange that even in the face of reality, people only see what they want to see.
You did a great job of managing the meeting the other night, and It was an extremely well mannered crowd.
October 12, 2011 at 7:36 am
denmom
Well I’m a woman and I have been assualted and my life threatened by John casili # 1 man and I say we need a campground for people to be. a toliet, shower, and garbage. John has chased these people around, stold everything they have. from grandparents ashes, id’s highschool dip. birth cert., clothing. he is the reason it has turned rude on the streets in the last 3 yrs. you steal from folks and deny them basic human rights you get no respect. Stop this class war e.r.c.c.! he’s picking up sheltered peoples garbage but lays his anger at the ones that have the least amoung us.Shame on you J.C.
October 12, 2011 at 9:16 am
Anonymous
Not the homeless women and children –he’s concerned about the middle class who have a right to go shopping in peace.
God forbid that middle class women should be allowed to do business in town without fear of violence against them or their children! What a fascist expectation!
October 12, 2011 at 11:38 am
Anne on a Mouse
John Casali needs to be put away before he does any more damage preying on the weak and unfortunate. Remember, Aaron Bassler was on a mission to protect the woods too. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.
October 12, 2011 at 11:54 am
Eric Kirk
You know, I was going to zap that one Anne, but I think I’ll leave it there. John can take it, but it is amazing that whenever anyone steps up to try to make something better out of a rough situation there are those who will turn on him viciously simply because the efforts do not fit into your particular agenda. Whether every action has been the most thought out, John is a fine man who is doing what he can. Can you say the same?
October 12, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Anne on a Mouse
Instead of replying to the post about Casail and his ilk’s assaults and threats against denmom, Eric disregards it’s portent and then has the nerve to call me vicious because I have concern for the community’s safety due to this man’s out of control and dangerous behavior.
October 12, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Not A Native
Well since Eric has declared someone is “a fine man”, any challenge of his actions is deemed to be slander or evidence of a malevolent agenda. You know, not too many years ago the common expression was a “Good Christian man”. Eric has tailored his rhetoric for local sensibilities, but his essential drawing a moral distinction between ‘us(good)’ and ‘them(evil)’ remains the purpose and result of his declaration.
If you want to read a more balanced and candid discussion of the meeting, look at Kym’s blog.
Eric is a staunch defender of the ‘comfortable bourgeoisie progressives’ with whom he relates well and that has the wherewithal to pay his schedule of attorney fees, when the occasion arises. This blog is little more than Eric’s self marketing and mechanism to create his image to what will appeal to potential clients.
October 12, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Anne on a Mouse
not too many years ago the common expression was a “Good Christian man”.
Excellent point.
October 12, 2011 at 5:29 pm
tra
I have a real problem with anyone who removes or destroys basic survival gear at homeless encampments, such as tents, tarps, sleeping bags, blankets, clothes, and so on. I have heard that both police and volunteer cleaner-uppers, sometimes do remove and discard these sorts of items, portraying them as “abandoned” though in many cases they may not be, which leaves a desperate, struggling-to-survive person who returns to their campsite suddenly even more desperate, cold, sick, and, at least in the winter, in serious danger of dying from exposure.
I don’t know how often this has happened, but even if it’s only occasional, it needs to be dealt with. The Eureka police have had a history of doing similar “sweeps” where they seize/destroy/discard tents and sleeping bags and so on, and I can recall at least one case a couple of years ago when a homeless man died of exposure soon afterward, and aquaintances of his claimed that his death was clearly attributable to his survival gear being taken and discarded shortly before his death.
I don’t know what the solution is, but there must be some way to avoid such a horrible outcome. Perhaps if tents / sleeping bags, etc are found and it is suspected that they are “abandoned” they should be tagged in some way, warning the owners that if they are not removed by the owner within “x” number of days they will be considered abandoned and may be removed. And even then, perhaps those removing the items should have to retain them, undamaged, for some period of time, and should leave information at the site on where the owner can go to re-claim their survival gear.
Taking away items that someone needs to survive is a little bit different than killing them outright…but in a moral or ethical sense, it’s not entirely different.
October 12, 2011 at 5:57 pm
denmom
John is doing a action you call stealing and violationg due process. Ca.Vs. kinkade. Every person has the right to due process, even the homeless Eric!! Of all people you should remember that one.
October 12, 2011 at 7:12 pm
Anne on a Mouse
Perhaps saying that he should be “put away” is premature. But at the very least he should be put on several years probation with the terms that he not go near the river, or any other homeless encampments, or have any contact whatsoever with the homeless people. If he violates the terms, off to jail he goes.
October 12, 2011 at 10:33 pm
ED Denson
I second tra’s post about stealing from the homeless. They don’t have much, but somehow the authorities think its a good idea to steal and destroy what little they have. This practice should stop, it is inhumane.
October 13, 2011 at 8:58 am
Anonymous
Anne and denmom-
What have you two been doing the last 5-8-10 years to help the community with this problem?
While John has been doing the ERCC?
October 13, 2011 at 9:06 am
Anonymous
Taking rubbish to the dump is not stealing.
Maybe you people should take a trip down to the Eel River and take a walk through the homeless camps, so you have at least a general idea of what the fuck you are talking about.Comments about the game from the sidelines don’t carry much weight.
Maybe you should invite some of the homeless to your house for awhile.
October 13, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Anonymous
First we need a campaign to promote more realistic expectations. Most of the transients I see these days are young and a little hungry, with backpacks and dogs and a few with instruments. They’re hoping for work and seeing that there’s not much, leave in a couple of days. A few find work, not many.
Then we need to create an organization to raise money for a camp or shelter for our resident homeless. Also some sort of system of supervision.
And hired staff.
In the more immediate picture I cannot imagine any objection to having a few strategically placed toilets around town, considering the real pressures of having so many travelers in town.
October 15, 2011 at 7:12 am
Anonymous too
“In the more immediate picture I cannot imagine any objection to having a few strategically placed toilets around town, considering the real pressures of having so many travelers in town.”
And yet, there are many, mainly main street business owners, who do object to toilets. And without “consensus” in the the SoHum community that those toilets are a good idea, HumCo Public Works Dept won’t allow them to be placed on public land, even if a private party is willing to pay for them, as several private parties are. Never mind that it’s a public health issue….
It’s a sad state of affairs. I suspect that many of these business owners supported the tax-reduction measures that over the last several decades have been chipping away at education funding, mental health services and other social programs. What did they think would happen? Many of these apparently aimless kids who show up here in increasing numbers every fall are simply our own home-grown migrant workers, coming here because they have no realistic prospects for better employment where they came from.
You say “They’re unkempt and ill-mannered, with no work ethic”? How did you think this generation of kids would turn out, with both parents working full time (if they were lucky enough to be from a two-parent family), lousy childcare, if any, essentially cared for by TV?
December 13, 2011 at 7:33 am
denmom
John C. bagged 4 active camps last week with all their survival gear in it and put it at the foot of thee meadows rd. so he could hussle more $ out of the community. he wrote horrible signs slamming the new crew, saying they talk the talk but don’t walk the walk. Your right John C. the new crew doesn’t steal peoples survival gear, and they recycle..imagine that?? John C. has been filling our landfills with recycable goods. shame, shame on him!! You quit John C. so go home and stay there… We got it covered. We are putting water on the fire of the class war you started in our community. imagine sleeping outside in 28′?? that is what John C. forces people to do.. John C. isn’t even a real non profit!! We know what you do J.C. Shame on you…. So.hum doesn’t want you, they finally fiqured your hate crimes out.. Theres attorneys that want to talk to you..
December 13, 2011 at 10:27 am
anne On a mouse
What a jerk!