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July 16, 2011 at 12:42 pm
suzy blah blah
The size of that grow is impressive. Makes you wonder how many similar outfits don’t get caught. But don’t let it get you down, A SoHum 215 co-op can compete with that by simply clear-cutting and rota-tilling seven or eight adjacent 40ac parcels and hiring a crew of illegal immigrants. Remember, we’ve got the advantage of the true Humboldt brand name. The only problem is we have to walk up and down hills –we need to get together real soon and work out a plan to flatten our mountains.
July 16, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Plain Jane
I know San Quintin quite well. It’s a little town almost on the Pacific coast, surrounded on the other sides by miles of plastic netting over the crops to prevent sun burn. The pot farm probably looked like all the rest from the air, but I’d guess all the locals knew about it, including law enforcement. There’s a fun place there out on the coast called Cielito Lindo with music, good food and salt water showers.
July 16, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Anonymous
I hope someone contacted the Guinness Book of Records.
July 16, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Anonymous
Glad it was in Baja, for a minute there I thought it might be my patch.
July 16, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Not A Native
I doubt it suzy. If(when) pot were legal internationally, Mexico would clean HumCo clocks. HumCo’s best talent is illegality which requires lax enforcement, being secretive, clandestine, and remote. Mexico’s resource is hard working people who have patience and determination in obtaining affluence.
July 16, 2011 at 3:07 pm
suzy blah blah
Dang NAN, but you sure are negative, not to mention –out of touch. We soHumboldters are no longer a bunch of lazy clandestine hippys in hammocks swinging in a shady area. The times have turned us into legitimate 215 growing hard hustling rednecks sweating in the sun, with big trucks who know how to rally and sling chicken shit and –get ‘er done. But you’ve got a good point about the clocks. Would that mean we’d no longer be on Humboldt time?.
July 16, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Jane
More important and also effects local “business”. WalMart is going in to Gottschalks. Time to boycott Eureka Mall. 3rd person info via Frank Jager.
July 16, 2011 at 4:56 pm
tra
I think NAN’s right on this one, though I think it would mostly be for a different reason — cheap labor.
There’s already thousands of tons of inexpensive Mexican ganja used in the U.S., though due to the fact that the quality still lags behind most domestic buds, most people with access to good domestic buds will still happily pay a lot more for the good stuff.
But I hear that Mexico is starting to catch up on quality, and there’s no reason, in principle, why they couldn’t grow pot that’s just as good as the best stuff grown here. Take away the need for smuggling it across the border, and I don’t see why they couldn’t dominate the U.S. market pretty quickly. (Of course there’s also the possibility that other cheap-labor countries like China, Vietnam, Indonesia and so forth might take a big part of the market share, too).
On the other hand, alcohol is legal in both the U.S. and Mexico (and most other countries), and cross-border alcohol sales are totally legal and have been for many decades, yet Mexican beer still doesn’t have all that much of a market share here. For some reason it seems like the Mexican beer just ain’t that great, at least the Mexican beer that is imported here (a friend claims it’s because of a handful of pseudomonopoly breweries in Mexico that use corrupt political power to squelch any attempts to start any competing breweries…I don’t know if that’s true or not). But I also don’t see Chinese, Vietnamese, or Indonesian beer producers driving our local breweries (or even the large domestic breweries) out of business either. Given the growing dominance of these cheap-labor countries in many types of manufacturing, I find this a bit puzzling. Any theories?
July 16, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Plain Jane
On the issue of Mexican beer, a great deal is sold in the US, even at prices higher than domestic mass produced and about the same price as local brews.
July 18, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Not A Native
PJ is correct, tra’s myopia is showing again, he’s got no perspective of whats happening in the larger world. Most of the beer consumed is made by a few companies. Corona extra is the 6th best seller and Mexican beers are the biggest imports..
Yeah , HumCo pot will always have some ‘local’ market. That means roughly 20,000 people, max. Sorry suzie, if you simply have another bowl, inconvenient truths won’t feel bothersome anymore.
Top Beers by Brand 2009:
1.Bud Light (unchanged from 2007) – 28.3% market share
2.Budweiser (unchanged from 2007) – 11.9% market share
3.Coors Light (up from #4 in 2007) – 9.9% market share
4.Miller Lite (down from #3 in 2007) – 9.2% market share
5.Natural Light (up from #6 in 2007) – 6.1% market share
6.Corona Extra (down from #5 in 2007) – 5.3% market share
7.Busch Light (up from #8 in 2007) – 3.7% market share
8.Busch (up from #9 in 2007) – 3.4% market share
9.Heineken (down from #7 in 2007) – 3.3% market share
10.Miller High Life (unchanged from 2007) – 2.7% market share
Top Imported Beer Brands 2009:
1.Corona Extra (unchanged from 2007)
2.Heineken (unchanged from 2007)
3.Modelo Especial (up from #6 in 2007)
4.Tecate (unchanged from 2007)
5.Corona Light (down from #3 in 2007)
6.Heineken Premium Light Lager (down from #5 in 2007)
7.Labatt Blue (up from #9 in 2007)
8.Dos Equis XX Lager Especial (not listed in 2007)
9.Stella Artois Lager (not listed in 2007)
10.Newcastle Brown Ale (down from #7 in 2007)
July 18, 2011 at 5:47 pm
tra
Well according to that list, the only Mexican beer that made the top ten was Corona, with a 5% market share.
Point being, it doesn’t seem like Mexican breweries are exactly “cleaning our clock.”
And that surprises me, since it seems like with the cleap labor and totally legal cross-border importation, they should be able to compete quite well. And while I’m not a fan of Corona, I do think it’s at least as good as any of the other beers above it on the list.
Perhaps it’s just habit, advertising and brand loyalty that has prevented Mexican beer from being more popular here?
July 18, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Plain Jane
Tra, Corona costs more than Budweiser or any of the beers which beat them in sales. It isn’t my favorite Mexican beer, but I don’t drink any of the mass produced American beer that outsells it either. ICK!
July 18, 2011 at 9:33 pm
tra
That’s exactly the point, P.J — With cheap labor, and no Prohibition and smuggling issue like there is with marijuana, why isn’t Mexico dominating the beer market here in the U.S. in all the categories? Given the cheap labor there, in theory they should be able to outcompete U.S. companies on all types of beers, from high quality, expensive brews, to mid-range brews, to cheap swill. Not just Mexico, but lots of other cheap-labor countries should be able to make all of those types of beers for much less money than it costs to make it here, and therefore it seems like beers from all those countries should be able to outcompete all our domestic brands. Yet they aren’t. My question is — why is that?
Are a lot of Americans fundamentally more attached to the idea of “domestic beers” than they are to the idea of “domestic automobiles?” Or is it mostly habit, advertising and brand loyalty? Is it that Mexico and other cheap labor countries just haven’t applied themselves in that area (yet)? Is it bigotry by the American consumer? Some other factor?
July 18, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Plain Jane
Beer costs a lot more here than it does in Mexico, Tra. Maybe wholesalers jack up the price to keep American beer more competitive. Maybe clever ads sell mediocre products. I’ll take a Sol or any hefeweizen over that top 10 list every time.
July 18, 2011 at 10:16 pm
suzy blah blah
Nan, not only is it totally true that in my opinion you refuse to go along with the program but because of your negative disposition you simply refuse to see it. Suzy will explain for you, slowly, step by step.
Common sense tells us that this isn’t the only grow of its kind in Mexico. Just the one that got caught, right? Obviously there’s many more of the same sort going on. One grower copying the other. Cloning. Exponential growth. A mono-culture of pot. That’s the northern Mexican desert style. But the advantage that we have here in the soHum rainforest is that we have far-sighted ppl with innovation. We’re not desert ppl, we live in the forest and we grow pretty much 100% of the time. We are not dried up here yet, we have nice cool summers and don’t need to worry about the expense of shadecloth.
OK, so then let’s take for our inquiry a very modest round number, let’s assume that there’s 100 such grows operating at present in northern Mexico. That’s 30000ac. Or 30sq miles. Give of take a few miles or two. So then, this is the point that I have to reiterate to you, We have the originality and the innovation and inventiveness to be able to copy that model. If we take the area from Redway to Whitethorn to Honeydew to Miranda, and flatten the hills, plow it into useable land and (like I suggested in my first post, were you listening? Try rereading it and maybe you’ll be able to get a feel for the real Humboldt spirit). The future is wide open, and believe me when we plant our famous killa Humboldt strain seeds . . . How many plants would that be? 25 mile long rows covering soHum, row after row, for miles, of the most potent marijuana on earth, whooaaaa > and suzy knows what i’m talking about * * *
I think you get the picture. Well maybe not. We have advanced seed strains and superior quality bat guano and other accoutrements of which you may not be fully aware. Anyway, if you still don’t get it i’m afraid that’s all I can do for you now. You just have to experience it yourself to really get the inside understanding. Try to picture in your head if you can what it’s like here in the hills south of Rio Dell. Huge marijuana plants all over the land swaying in the breeze. LOL! We’re the big number one and we don’t plan on giving it up easily, we’ve got fight, we’ve got savvy, and like I said we’re no longer spaced out hippys. When you criticized the likes of ppl like The Man Who Should Walk in the Woods, you were thinking of our parents. But things have changed –we figured it out! And nobody can stand up to us anymore. We are Number ONE, that’s big time recognition and respect. And we plan to keep it that way, through innovation, hustle, and know how.
Another thing about us is our environmental concern. We grew up in an environmentally concerned environment. And now we are on the green highway to successful marijuana entrepreneury. We will grow 100% organic under the sun … and in my plan we’d leave the Whitmore grove completely untouched. Then when full legalization comes, we are ready, and we are far ahead of the pack and set to lead the market by continuing inventing more ingenious ways of growing and marketing. I’m talking about the kind of innovative brainstorming that ppl like you can’t even see the tip of the iceberg of from where you live. Not to mention food, food products, oil, glassware, pipes, oils, etc , , . It goes on forever, All exciting products at the head of the field, all sporting the Humboldt brandname. We are in the lead position in the minds of the pot smokers of the nation at this point and we have no intention of losing the race to the good ppl south of the border.
To get back to my main point. You have all the symptoms of what is known as a negative personality syndrome. I won’t go into the details because of limited space and time, but one of the main characteristics is that you always seem to see the negative in soHum ppl for some reason. Did you ever try clearing your mind of beer statistics and meditating on that?
July 19, 2011 at 6:19 am
Anonymoused
That top ten beer list sez it all ’bout current ‘Mericans… big in the belly…Lite in the head. That is a lot of crappy beer.
July 19, 2011 at 8:18 am
Anonymous
Has anyone figured out the cost of covering almost 300 acres with shade cloth? Or even 200 acres?
And nothing grown under shade cloth is going to compete with full sun grown pot.
Latitude is another factor.
July 19, 2011 at 10:31 am
tra
If we take the area from Redway to Whitethorn to Honeydew to Miranda, and flatten the hills, plow it into useable land
Sounds like “mountaintop removal.” Yeah, that’ll work out. And no enviro impact there!
As usual, Suzy’s posts seem to be an interesting mix of serious and sensible thoughts, with wildly outlandish and presumably non-serious suggestions. Problem is, it’s sometimes difficult (for me at least) to determine which is which. Clearly we’re not “number one” in pot growing, not even close. And “superior quality bat guano?” Like the Mexicans won’t be able to get the same stuff? And I’m all for growing organically under the sun, rather than indoors, but flattenting all the land out and monocropping ganja certainly wouldn’t be a “green highway to successful marijuana entrepreneury.” But maybe this is almost all satire?
Anyway, I think NAN’s right that with full, international Legalization, Mexico certainly should be able to out-compete U.S. growers, including Humboldt growers. And I’d add that I suspect other low-wage countries should be able to do so also. Or at least I can’t think of a reason why not. I’m still not clear on why that hasn’t happened with beer, though.
July 19, 2011 at 11:43 am
suzy blah blah
And nothing grown under shade cloth is going to compete with full sun grown pot. Latitude is another factor.
Excellent points, and there are many many more such factors which I could list that ppl who don’t have the hands on experience and aren’t involved enough can’t see.
July 21, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Not A Native
The ‘old’ suzy was clever, thoughtful, and wrote stylishly. The ‘new’ suzy is the opposite.
July 21, 2011 at 5:27 pm
suzy blah blah
Nan, I am afraid that I really don’t suffer fools easily, and any low-life that prefers the crude humor, and slapstick style of
BAP! ~ hay ‘ gimeme htat keybored
the reel Suzy juat wanst to thakn yuo very muche NAn. YUo are sweeet and reallly samrt to see the difffeeance in between us LOL@ but whr aer we galking about Suzys for? Eriks aaway, shitting in the wooods LOL@ and its a good time while hes gone to ezplin to everyone why hes such a idiotic moron on top of bieng a phony capitalast ganster laywer
who rips off the real liberals like yyou and m
uh! I’ll take that back now, dear, So Nan, what I’m saying is that you are so negative all the time. Or if you prefer, sooooooooooo negative. Especially when y
Whap bop ~ shes not funny shes a totao l bitche ..shes hte won wohs negativre , down thier on the folor with my foot on hre ncke .. and im the nice Suzy who everywon loves, but not hre -shes evan ,more phoney then Eric is NaN and she aslo is ..
Okay enough of this yin-yang schizoid maneuvering. The Suzy who is in control here is off of the floor now. And sensible rationalization is back in the drivers seat. I believe that the spontaneous creation of dualistic symbols is our best way to understand Human Nature. And all of creation is dua – hey
BaP! BaM!omPH! — in contorl LOL@ . . luvnpease adn positivity til wee meat agiah NAN,
huggles,
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July 23, 2011 at 6:35 am
Not A Native
Not the same as old suzy at all, but a good try. Apparently your orientation is that labeling something as ‘negative’ somehow implies its untrue. Thats just a bogus way of invoking a particular ethic(need I say ‘Christian’) that promotes passivity and agreement with the status quo as a prized virtue.
Of course, that ethic’s real purpose is to preserve and strengthen existing power structure by stopping ‘heretical’ ideas before they are expressed. So suzy, calling ‘negative’ is simply another obfuscating way to promote SoHum denial, in this case by marginalizing the messenger. Going back to my Christian analogy, Martin Luther was first squelched with the admonishment of being negative too.
July 23, 2011 at 11:58 am
suzy blah blah
Not the same as old suzy at all, but a good try
Thanks. I’m afraid I am not nearly as smart, clever, or stylish as the original Suzy. When I attempted taking on her role, about a year and a half ago, I found that it was more difficult than I’d expected. Trying to copy the old Suzy’s style, not to speak of appropriating her wit, was a big challenge. Perhaps I should never have taken on her screen name to begin with. But she wanted someone to do it, and she gave me her permission, and she convinced me that it’d be easy to make everyone think that I was Suzy. In the beginning I thought it was amusing, pretending to be her. But soon, I found that making the typos etc was not enough. I just couldn’t capture the essence of her posts.
Looking back now, I believe ppl like Nan were able to see through the act
because –I was not being myself. And it showed. The original Suzy didn’t have to play a role and could be completely natural. She could really swing. But I had to pretend. That was mistake number one, to pretend I was someone who I wasn’t. Then I made mistake number two by dropping the act and posting as myself, but continuing to use her screen name. I even expressed my doubts about it to her at the time, but she said that I was doing just fine and it didn’t matter. She encouraged me to keep posting under the suzy moniker. She emailed me, “it’s all good”. But I see now that the problem is that she has a much better sense of irony and satire than I do. And so I don’t know what to do, continue using her name, use a different name, post under ‘anonymous’, or what? I wrote to her about it and I’m waiting for an answer.
July 23, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Ernie's Place
Ah, what tangled webs we weave….
July 24, 2011 at 7:33 am
Pepsi Longstalking
It ain’t easy hiding behind a moniker or being anonymous… I guess you can see that now Ernie. Best of luck suzies!
I had an older friend who had multiple blog personalities and they would argue and put each other down, I hope you can catch this ” temporary twoness” before it progresses into what they had.
July 24, 2011 at 8:50 am
Not A Native
I give credit to Ernie for originally publicizing that there was a new suzy.
I did notice significant differences in the postings, but I wouldn’t have independently come to the awareness that it a different poster was the reason.
Anyway, my point stands that the ‘accusation’ of being negative is simply:
“I don’t like what you’re saying, it threatens my legitimacy even if its true. So shut up because keeping people comfortable and complacent is more important than making them confront truths that cause angst and may result their taking authority and making changes’.
July 24, 2011 at 12:17 pm
suzy blah blah
Ernie, tut tut.
Pepsi, tell your “friend” best of luck too, from whomever . . .
Nan, I talked to the real suzy and she says there’s medication available for people like you who are always so negative.
July 24, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Ernie's Place
Tell the Real Suzy Hello and we miss her. However, the new Suzy is certainly thought provoking. I thought for a while that Suzy had multiple personalities.
July 24, 2011 at 3:04 pm
silence do good
Hey Suzy, Bless Your Heart, it’s trully Hogwash, some of the little sumthin’s get away w/around these blogs and festivals, like trying to pass B.S. for Truth,or that old idiom, hey your not one of us, was’nt it the great Wavy Gravy his self said, ” we’se all tha same poison tryin to shake hands w/one another”. PS to Mr. Gravy ,I lost the poem I wrote You for your 72nd, tho thar’s a song inthar somewhere’s. Love and much more love and understanding!!!!
July 24, 2011 at 3:12 pm
silence do good
And to not a native, ethics are what keep some human beings from fucking over other human beings etc. etc. you fucking moron!!!, Icould not silence myself any longer!!!
July 24, 2011 at 4:06 pm
suzy blah blah
She’s sitting here right next to me Ernie, and I told her Hello from you. She says, “hello backatcha Ice-man”. She says she still reads your blog, but since she’s had the baby she hasn’t had time to do Suzy posts. –That’s when I started writing them.
Silence, I’d better not catch one of those unethical little natives trying to pass off Bandsaw for Confidential.
July 24, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Eric Kirk
Yeah, I miss the old suzy too. There was some real raw wit and a subtlety that just doesn’t mesh with the new one.
Kind of like Serenity as a follow-up to Firefly. Certain token elements spliced in, but just lacking the umpf.
July 24, 2011 at 5:15 pm
ann on a mouse
“tokin’ elements” LOL!
Okay, that’s all, I can take a hint. I just can’t come anywhere near to her “raw wit and subtlety” not to mention the “umph”.
So the Suzy Blah Blah screen-name is now officially closed. Unless the real Suzy decides to revive it.
July 25, 2011 at 7:43 pm
olmanriver
Do give my fondest regards to the Real Suzy and thank her immensely for all the years of my favorite conversations online. How I have enjoyed her perspective and style and the years of riffing off her comments… the most LOL’s in my personal bloghistory. I used to get sooo excited to see if she said something back to my sillinesses, which could never compare to her natural humor. And when she would write something, it was like having Penelope Cruz write back to me. She was, and still is, a blogstar
ps. I think it was big of you to take over Suzy’s screen name while she took care of her baby, ann.
Now that we know it is you, I hope you will still continue to comment, as yourself, of course.
July 25, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Plain Jane
Your new screen name made me chuckle, Ann. Looking forward to chatting with you as you.
July 26, 2011 at 7:50 am
Anne on a Mouse
Thanks OMR, I’ll tell her. Luv you PJ.
Nan, I don’t really think you’re “negative”. I was joking. I like reading your commentary.
July 26, 2011 at 7:53 am
Anne on a Mouse
make that “too negative”