On my way home from Eureka tonight I listened to KGOE’s talk show hosts ranting about Obama’s capitulation, and I was about to…, well, I’ve already turned in my Hope and Change membership card. Anyway, a responsible President can’t allow taxes to be raised on the consuming class in middle of a recession, and I understand that. What I haven’t understood was the rhetorical wimpiness. Why isn’t Obama screaming bloody murder and rightfully accusing the Republicans of holding the middle class tax cuts hostage in order to jam a deficit-inflating special tax break for the very rich? How could he possibly lose the exchange when the majority support an extension of the universal tax cuts while opposing the special tax cuts? And why capitulate even before the fight begins as he always seems to do?
Well, he and we lose if the sudden decrease in available consumption money comes to fruition in 2011. So, maybe he talks to the Republicans, who are in a bind themselves because they have to cater to tea party extremists while delivering on promises to the independents who vote for them for results by 2012. He got 200 billion in stimulus money in the form of the unemployment extension (not “paid for” out of existing money, which means additional money is poured into the economy) and a cut in payroll taxes, which would ordinarily increase the risk of Social Security insolvency, except that the plan apparently also incorporates Social Security fund guarantees from the general fund. These aren’t small issues. And the Republicans have conceded them – assuming that Obama can deliver the Congressional Democrats.
Only maybe he can’t. Congressional Democrats aren’t happy. Some of them are even threatening a filibuster. It’s not a done deal. If the Democrats play their cards right, they could have Republicans bidding against themselves. Maybe not. Maybe the progressive caucus will be railroaded, but not before they’ve grabbed the narrative for a media cycle. Sanders is getting more interviews than he’s had in years.
Economists are screaming that a sudden tax increase will hurt economic recovery. As we’ve discussed before, the investing class is sitting on trillions of money and I’m not convinced that giving them trillions more will lead to any more investing in employment. But if it does, and the economy improves over two years, the next sunset comes up in 2012 when Democrats bother to vote.
It could also be that Obama is caving just to keep the economy from going into free fall and has already given up on a second term.
But let’s see what happens if the Progressive Caucus can gum up the works. All Obama has to do is stay out of it. It’s the starting negotiation point for Republicans, and some of their own are upset with them over the extension of unemployment benefits for 13 months.
Pelosi is the bellwether here. The nation turns its lonely eyes to her in the last scene of her act.
Probably a stretch. Probably Obama’s on the phone calling in favors to get enough Democrats to cave, and maybe nothing more will be gained. We’ll find out soon enough.
Addendum: I received an email from someone with another perspective, someone whose unemployment benefits were about to expire. She supports the “cave.” She was one of these people:
And some of the Kos people are maybe a little to cavalier when they suggest that the “casualty rate” of 2 million people made homeless is acceptable.
Just a different way of looking at it.
But even if the cave-in was necessary, why the wimpy rhetoric? Again, I hope it’s strategy. Because if it isn’t, the Republicans will be running the country for the next six years.
Second addendum: Economists say there will be a stimulus effect, but fairly limited in the absence of an expansion under independent factors. They do agree that to let the tax cuts expire would cause a contraction, while the extended unemployment benefits will create over 700,000 jobs. Paul Krugman isn’t happy, but he does acknowledge that the deal is looking a little better than he had expected.
Third addendum: Obama held a press conference. He says that a fight would have been “good politics” but bad for the economy. He’s getting some flack from the press corps.
Finally the Progressive Caucus has chimed in. Looks like they have some fight in them.
As do the grassroots, and the WH and Congress are being flooded with calls. This is a good day to make them, before anything is set in stone.
Meanwhile, the press conference is still happening. This may be the headline from Obama:
“I think it’s tempting not to negotiate with hostage takers…unless the hostage gets harmed.”
At least he followed my advice on the rhetoric, finally.
You can sign a petition against the deal.
Fourth addendum: My God that was a brutal press conference! The reporters were all over them and he got kind of testy, calling those who are attacking him for compromising “sanctimonious.” This as he just admitted to caving in to hostage takers.
But here’s some real good news. Sen. Mary Landrieu is calling the deal “morally corrupt.” Landrieu! Are there enough Democrats willing to filibuster? How about reconciliation. Isn’t this a budget matter?
The Republicans are in hiding right now. What will they say when they emerge? There was some gloating on right wing blogs last night, but what can they do now? Praise Obama?
Go back to my original theme. I think this was deliberate. Let’s see how it plays out.
Fifth addendum: David Kurtz writes that today’s press conference was Obama’s “seminal moment.” Obama says he won’t be held to “some abstract deal” by those who are “sanctimonious” and “purist.”
I have to say, this portion of his talk was very well thought out.
Still no sign of the Republicans.

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December 7, 2010 at 3:56 am
Mitch
Eric,
Obama showed his stripes when he installed the people he’d said he wouldn’t install at Treasury and the other money-spots. Any hope since has been momentum.
December 7, 2010 at 3:57 am
Mitch
…has been momentum.
And, of course, the thrill of having a President who can speak in complete sentences.
December 7, 2010 at 7:33 am
Anonymous
Mitch do you mean a president that can read off a teleprompter? Just this past week there was another example of HIS speaking ability when the teleprompter went down, uh uh uh uh uh uh. BO is a very good orator but only on a prepared speech with the aid of a teleprompter. like a talking head on a major TV network. Kind of like acting but you get to read the script.
Remember when BO and his posse tried to ban Fox News from a press confference? This is BO’s “transparency”. That even shocked and offended the rest of the media. I jsut had to bring that up.
I think (that means my opinion and not an absolute fact) that BO “caved in” because he really really wants a second term. The Hope and Change was political crap to get elected, just a slogan and nothing more. BO has had his own agenda and doing what the majority of Americans want is not on his list, pretty obvious really. Doing what is best for America is not on BO’s list of things to do either. Many Americans are not happy with BO and his administration, hench the “Shellacking” and the low poll ratings.
And to Eric, the Republicans will be running the country for the next six years. And I would hope they listen to the people so it will be much longer than 6 years.
BO “caved in” because he is floundering. He is over his head and has surrounded himself with campaign stratigists and his Chicago buddies.
BO will be a one term president just like Jimmy Carter. The issue at hand is how to minimize the damage he has done, and will continue to do.
And do I really need to remind you? The “tea party” folks are not extremists, no matter how many times you say it.
It’s OK to admit taht you were wrong. Admission is the first step to cure, as the saying goes.
If you’ll excuse me I have to watch some Fox News before I go to work.
December 7, 2010 at 9:15 am
Anonymous
twisting a story as much as you want, the truth is eventually gonna rise to the top. obummer is a very under performing president. not at all what we thought. sarah palin is obummer’s best chance for a second term, the great white hope. the repuglicans got us in this mess, and obummer is keeping us in it.
December 7, 2010 at 9:41 am
Ed Denson
I believe Will Rogers said “I don’t belong to an organized political party, I am a Democrat.” And there you have it. The Democrats accept even Lieberman as one of theirs, and so they control the committees and get the perks of being the majority. But they are divided amongst themselves and so can not operate as the Republicans do – as a voting block. On the other hand the Founders were very concerned about “faction” – i.e. political parties – as a major source of damage to democratic government, and sure enough they were right.
December 7, 2010 at 9:53 am
Anonnymoose
The extension of unemployment does not do anything for the 2 million who are at the end of their benefits after 99 weeks.
December 7, 2010 at 10:51 am
Ditto
This liberal progressive is DONE with Obama and any Democrat that votes for this unaffordable giveaway to people who don’t need it, won’t spend it and will just continue to outsource jobs for greater profit. The right demonizes Obama so the left will continue to support his milque toast “hope and change” rhetoric which is empty of substance.
December 7, 2010 at 10:57 am
Eric Kirk
The networks are reporting otherwise, but I think you’re right that it only applies to the 26 week people who run out of state benefits. Still, nothing’s a done deal. Sanders and Weiner aside, the Democrats have been strangely silent today. They aren’t condemning the deal, but they aren’t rolling out a new bill yet either.
Lieberman is applauding the deal of course. That’s the only public statement I’ve found.
Edit – I take it back. Hoyer says there’s no deal yet as far as Congressional Democrats are concerned. The Republicans can’t go back on what they’ve offered. They’re at their negotiation starting point, and I don’t think they can just pull out now. I woke up this morning thinking my conjecture last night was a wishful thinking stretch, but maybe Obama did play a decent card here.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/hoyer-no-dem-agreement-on-tax-cuts-deal-could-still-change.php?ref=fpb
This is the key quote from the article.
At a meeting between President Obama and top Democrats yesterday, Obama did not ask his Congressional leaders to whip the plan or to freeze the framework in place.
December 7, 2010 at 11:16 am
Eric Kirk
Yeah, Pelosi isn’t jumping on board either. Did the Republicans just assume that Obama was speaking for the whole party? They are also oddly silent this morning.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/pelosi-we-will-continue-discussions-with-obama-and-dem-caucus-on-tax-cuts.php?ref=fpb
December 7, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Anonymous
Whiners.
December 7, 2010 at 4:09 pm
Anonymous
Yeah Obama deliberately instigated an insurrection against himself. If so, Machiavelli isn’t even in his league!
December 7, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Steak n Eggs
As an Independent, my family and many others are grateful Obama has the sense to compromise during these hard times rather than listening to the liberal progressives and end up with nothing. Ideology goes out the door when you cannot pay the bills and feed the kids.
Of course the real question is whether the GOP would have really voted against unemployment benefits…this could have been a brilliant bluff.
December 7, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Eric Kirk
Bernie Sanders is hinting at a coalition with Republicans to filibuster the deal.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/sanders-outlines-plan-to-sink-obama-tax-compromise.php?ref=fpi
December 7, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Ditto
Olbermann reported tonight that Bernie Sanders may filibuster the tax cuts. Which Republicans are talking about filibustering it?
December 7, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Mitch
Steak n Eggs,
I think I understand the position people are in when they are scared of unemployment cutting out. And I can understand why someone would be happier with a President who compromises rather than someone who risks others’ survival for political dogma.
But I’m not sure it’s as simple as “compromise” versus “ideology.” Paul Krugman puts it really well in the NY Times:
“Bear in mind that Republicans want to make those tax cuts permanent. They might agree to a two- or three-year extension — but only because they believe that this would set up the conditions for a permanent extension later. And they may well be right: if tax-cut blackmail works now, why shouldn’t it work again later?
“America, however, cannot afford to make those cuts permanent. We’re talking about almost $4 trillion in lost revenue just over the next decade; over the next 75 years, the revenue loss would be more than three times the entire projected Social Security shortfall. So giving in to Republican demands would mean risking a major fiscal crisis — a crisis that could be resolved only by making savage cuts in federal spending.”
For decades, the Republicans have been implementing Grover Norquist’s stated plan to shrink government revenues until they can “drown it in the bathtub.” The problem, as far as I can tell, is that even when the Democrats win, the party in power is still implementing the plan, just at a different speed.
December 7, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Ditto
EXACTLY!@ Mitch. Of course the Republicans’ entire agenda of NO is to prevent economic recovery to guarantee themselves control all branches of government in 2012. That’s really going to suck. How ironic that “Obama the Socialist” is helping the neo-cons destroy our country as we know it.
December 7, 2010 at 6:32 pm
Eric Kirk
Chuck Todd says that there is “triple-digit” Democrat opposition to the deal in the House. That may make it hard to pass, unless all of the Republicans vote with Obama.
December 7, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Eric Kirk
And lest we think Obama earned any points with Conservatives, this from Red State.
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/12/07/sticks-stones-and-thin-skinned-barry/
But, Mr. Obama, I have a question for you — if the American people are hostages and the GOP are the hostage takers, what the hell are you besides a failed negotiator?
And if you can’t even succeed in negotiating with the GOP, how exactly will you succeed against Iran, North Korea, and . . . you know . . . the real terrorists and hostage takers? Maybe this explains why the 2010 troop death toll in Afghanistan is closing in on the total Afghan death toll under George W. Bush’s Presidency.
December 7, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Eric Kirk
Sen. Sherod Brown, “I hate sports metaphors, but Obama basically punted on third down.”
December 7, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Anonymous
Steak and Eggs – “As an Independent, my family and many others are grateful Obama has the sense to compromise during these hard times rather than listening to the liberal progressives and end up with nothing. Ideology goes out the door when you cannot pay the bills and feed the kids.”
Yes, isn’t that just what happens, that’s how we all go down the drain. Chris Hedges wrote a wake-up call column about that.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/happy_as_a_hangman_20101206/
December 7, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Ditto
Red State obliquely admits the GOP got the better deal and questions his ability to negotiate well with our enemies when he couldn’t even negotiate successfully with the GOP. If these tax cuts pass, there will be a completely GOP government, both houses, the White House and SCOTUS. With the rapidly ballooning deficit they will cut away the social safety net, including Social Security and Medicare. They’re won’t be any choice.
December 7, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Tom Sebourn
Great coverage of this Eric.
I say, let all tax cuts expire. Extend unemployment and start a public works program to rebuild our infrastructure. We had to do this once before in the 1930s. We got it right then. We built the biggest middle class the world has ever known. We should get it right now. Those that would work against this are against living in a country or a world with a middle class.
Richard Trumka, President of the AFL-CIO said if we doubled the average daily wage world wide (currently .50 cents) to a dollar a day, we would create a 40 % rise in demand for goods and services (jobs). Why are we talking tax cuts for people that aren’t considered workers?
It makes no economic sense.
December 7, 2010 at 7:26 pm
Steak n Eggs
Mitch…I understand your point but don’t share it. I cannot see the Dems connecting with the plight of the average joe. They talk the talk of Dems but not the average guy who could care a less about political affiliations. He just wants some f-ing help. Who cares if a majority of the Dems oppose the plan. As far as many of us are concerned, they and the GOP have a complete disconnect with the majority of Americans, and this just further illustrates it.
December 7, 2010 at 7:44 pm
Mitch
Steak n Eggs said:
“I cannot see the Dems connecting with the plight of the average joe.”
And there’s the tragedy right there. Both major parties send millionaires to Congress, backed by millionaires’ money. The dems give lip service to “the average joe,” the pubs find people who act like “the average joe,” and neither side in actuality does anything that will support “the average joe,” because they are both owned.
The dems talk as though they care but, when push comes to shove they bail on underwater homeowners and bail out underwater banks. Do that a few times, and people figure it out.
December 7, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Eric Kirk
Bernie Sanders isn’t slowing down.
I understand that the President is proposing a two year extension of tax cuts for the rich. What makes you think two years from now, that’s going to change? Who in fact is going to believe the President — anybody — when they say well, I’m not going to extend the tax breaks for the rich. That’s what we said two years ago.
If anyone believes this is the end of what the Republicans want, you’re sorely mistaken. They’re going to come back right after this going after Social Security…this is just the beginning of their run.
December 7, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Eric Kirk
It looks like there are Republicans who may filibuster. They don’t like the unemployment provisions.
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/12/07/jim-demint-ill-vote-to-filibuster-the-tax-cuts-deal/
Bernie Sanders hinted at a possible coalition to kill the deal. Do they have the numbers?
December 7, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Not A Native
This was a good thread up to when the nihilism, cynicism, and anger started up.
This ain’t the 1930′s OR the 1960′s, get over it. If the you truly admire hard work, put your backs into pushing the wheel rather than despairing that it isn’t rolling on its own to where you’re certain it shoul be going.
Lets encourage Thompson, Boxer, and Feinstein to ‘improve’ the deal. If you say no tax cuts for anyone is better than tax cuts for all, you’re not on the side of the ‘average guy’.
And no, I’m not happy Obama backed down either. But the Novemeber voters weakened him, thats just a fact that can’t be ignored. As long as the voters are afraid and fearful, liberals will have a difficult time keeping their loyalty.
December 7, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Sally
I’d rather pay higher taxes myself, than have the Bush “temporary cuts” extended. A few years back, when The Arnold won the recall election for governor of California, I was really pissed off about the “rebate” check I received for the DMV taxes I had paid a few months previously. I took the rebate $ amount, and donated it locally. I WANT better roads, schools, infrastructure and public services. I am willing to pay more taxes, in order to provide for “the greater good”. I don’t have kids, but I WANT to have my tax money pay for schools for the children in my community, and in my state, and in this nation. If the Dems let the clock run out, and ALL of us pay the same tax rate we did 10 years ago, I don’t care! I’d rather pay more, than have the billionaires continue to get a free ride.
December 7, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Sally
and, PS: If raising my taxes will help prevent our elders / seniors from having to eat cat food, I am all for it.
December 7, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Tom Sebourn
Sally, I agree 100%.
December 7, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Sally
Thanks, Tom. I’m more than willing to pay my share! Let’s just actually have some services locally… and support our elders, and the youth!
December 7, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Eric Kirk
Very interesting discussion on Lawrence O’Donnell tonight. He makes the best defense of Obama’s compromise so far. I’ll try to post a video when it’s available. He debated simultaneously several progressive activists who were willing to take the debate into January and then reach a deal and retroactively reinstate the tax cuts. He and Ezra Klein argued quite persuasively that such a law would be unworkable, and the lowest 10 percent of the tax bracket would be hit with a 50 percent increase in taxes. Both Klein and O’Donnell have experience drafting tax laws, and the others lacked the experience to challenge their conclusion.
Both argued that ultimately this was the best deal possible, and Klein said that while it’s morally distasteful to allow rich people to get these tax breaks, he is more interested in the stimulus provisions, which are more effective when they are “unpaid for.” He is in short more concerned about the economy than tax rates.
The arguments are rational.