Citizens Against Legalizing Marijuana (or CALM). They have a brochure.
Thanks to Calitics for the links.
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April 29, 2010 at 12:53 am
suzy blah blah
-that acronym gives me the creeeps /:
April 29, 2010 at 6:48 am
Dave
I suspect that there will be more (if there already aren’t) web sites dedicated to opposing legalization as November draws near.
Looks like the group is based south of us (Carmichael).
April 29, 2010 at 7:58 am
Eric Kirk
Well, I wouldn’t expect it to be based north of us.
April 29, 2010 at 8:03 am
blacklisted2
you ain’t see nothin’ yet,,,who sang that?
April 29, 2010 at 10:37 am
Mr. Nice
These websites are weak.
All they talk about is how people can’t drive on weed.
Who the hell drives after they smoke a bunch of weed anyway? Don’t these people know that the only thing any weed smoker can think about for the next four hours is the refrigerator? I’ve never been in the situation once where I was like damn, I just smoked through 2 grams of grapefruit kush in one sitting, I feel like hopping in the truck and driving into town.
No. Never. These are the typical activities after a weed session:
Cleaning the floor before the counters, cleaning the counters, and then having to clean the floor again.
Fucking.
Guacamole.
Bird watching.
Dispersing bird seed.
Rolling another blunt.
Looking at pictures of weed on the internet.
Taking a nap.
Drinking an entire can of coconut nectar.
Drawing.
Staring at bumblebees.
Going on a walk.
Organizing your closet in such a way that will have to be redone later.
Staring at the wall.
The are a thousand things I could list that are top priority over driving while high. Even if you were high while driving, it’s not that hard. These people keep thinking it’s like being drunk.
April 29, 2010 at 12:21 pm
anonymous
the problem is smoking at parties, or concerts, or some place other than home, then you have to drive while high.
April 29, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Mr. Nice
It’s good that weed is illegal so that people don’t do that.
April 29, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Mr. Nice
So these sites aren’t publishing any of my comments about how we should all vote No because this will drive the price up and put street hustlers out of business including children who form the majority of nickel-bag salespeople.
You’d think they’d appreciate my support more.
April 29, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Mr. Nice
Meant drive price down.
April 29, 2010 at 5:13 pm
shankarwolf
I think one of the biggest hurdles to legalization will be the driving issue. Soccer Moms in mini vans don’t like the idea that stoners are out on the roads endangering the lives of their children. If someone invented a piece of technology to instantly measure THC levels I’m sure they would make millions.
April 29, 2010 at 6:40 pm
the reasonable anonymous
I’d like to see a study that shows the difference in performance between drivers who smoked two joints, and drivers who drink two beers. I’m betting that the pot smokers would be a whole lot safer.
Essentially we just need to develop a DUI test for ganja, like the breathalyzers used to test for alcohol. The standard for how much cannabis is “too much” should be on good, scientific studies of how impaired the average person is at a given level of cannabis in their blood.
People shouldn’t be driving while impaired for any reason, be it too much alcohol, too much cannabis, too much Vicodin, too much coffee-and-cell-phone-calls, or whatever.
April 29, 2010 at 8:40 pm
ED Denson
Who is funding CALM?
April 29, 2010 at 8:43 pm
moviedad
The initiative doesn’t stand a chance of passing.
April 29, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Eric Kirk
I think one of the biggest hurdles to legalization will be the driving issue. Soccer Moms in mini vans don’t like the idea that stoners are out on the roads endangering the lives of their children. If someone invented a piece of technology to instantly measure THC levels I’m sure they would make millions.
It is illegal to drive impaired by any substance. Even prescription drugs. That won’t change.
The initiative doesn’t stand a chance of passing.
Really? I was kind of thinking it’s borderline inevitable.
April 30, 2010 at 7:02 am
shankarwolf
I’m aware it’s illegal to drive impaired by any substance but I think the opposition will highlight a prediction that legalization will increase citizens driving while stoned. The fear factor will be strongest because we all use the roads.
April 30, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Jane
Mr. Nice, just thank you. Your posts made me laugh out loud! I needed that.
April 30, 2010 at 7:00 pm
the reasonable anonymous
I know this: If I had to be a passenger in a car with either (a) someone who just drank two beers, or (b) someone who just smoked two joints, I would not hesitate to choose the pot-smoker. Drunk drivers are WAY more dangerous than drivers who use pot, it’s just the nature of the two different substances. Alcohol impairs judgement greatly, while also lowering inhibitions and increasing aggressiveness and risk-taking. Pot impairs judgement somewhat (but far less than alcohol) and tends to lead to more cautious driving and less risk-taking. Of course I’d rather be a passenger in a car with a driver who was neither drunk nor stoned. but if I had to choose, it would be an easy choice.
Again, I think we need a science-based standard for how much cannabis in your system is “too much to drive” and some kind of equivalent to the breathalyzer to enforce that standard. Pot stays in your system for weeks, but has no significant effect on judgement or reaction time after the first couple of hours. There’s no question that people can smoke a joint and then safely drive a couple hours later. The problem is how are the cops supposed to decide if you’re impaired or not. If the issue is alcohol, they use a breathalyzer. But if they suspect you’ve been using pot, how are they supposed to judge whether you are “driving under the influence” or not?
May 1, 2010 at 9:40 am
ED Denson
The problem is how are the cops supposed to decide if you’re impaired or not. If the issue is alcohol, they use a breathalyzer. But if they suspect you’ve been using pot, how are they supposed to judge whether you are “driving under the influence” or not?
The cops current answer is if you admit smoking, you are DUI and they arrest you. While simple for the cops, it is almost always wrong, and in the end they lose almost all DUI marijuana cases. However, they do cause a lot of stress and expense for the victims of their inability to distinguish impaired driving from smoking pot. The law really should be that they can’t write you up for DUI marijuana unless there is serious evidence of impaired driving. Don’t hold your breath waiting for it.
May 1, 2010 at 6:25 pm
the reasonable anonymous
My point exactly, Ed.
We need a test, equivalent to the breathalyzer, and a clear, science-based standard for how much cannabis in your system would be considered too much for driving, operating heavy equipment, etc. Until then, a lot of people are going to have their time and money wasted by the legal system, for no good reason. And a lot of cops, prosecutors and judges wasting a lot of taxpayer-funded time, too.
May 1, 2010 at 6:38 pm
the reasonable anonymous
Huh? Why is my comment in italics? Weird.
May 2, 2010 at 1:54 pm
ED Denson
probably my fault for not knowing how to end italics
ED