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Former Press Secretary Dana Perino (the one who had majored in political science but never heard of the Cuban Missile Crisis) went onto Fox News to make the remarkable claim that there was no terrorist attack on America during Bush’s term. Nobody on the set contradicted her.
Addendum: Here is a photo study of Fox News’ more blatant errors of late, which has led to something of an internal crackdown. They don’t list the blatant innacuracies stated by their opinion commentators.
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November 25, 2009 at 10:02 am
Dave Kirby
Not surprising. FOX is probably the largest collection of dim bulbs on T.V. >
November 25, 2009 at 10:16 am
Fred Mangels
I’d suggest she was referring to there being no terrorist attacks in the United States since after 9/11, which is arguably true, unless you consider that Ft. Hood shooting terrorism.
November 25, 2009 at 10:19 am
Eric Kirk
Maybe, but that’s the whole point. They know that their audience is of the frame of mind that the attack was somehow Clinton’s fault, and all they have to do is move the narrative up a little and walah – 30 percent polled believe that 911 happened on Clinton’s watch, if anybody decides to take that poll.
November 25, 2009 at 11:19 am
unanonymous
while I agree with the sumation of fox you may want to apply the same to msnbc, the counter-fox channel, and of course, cnn the corporate news. unless you think oberman(sp) is anything more than entertainment. it is a part of the american political landscape. journalism has always been a pawn of special interests, private and public.
November 25, 2009 at 11:41 am
Eric Kirk
In terms of bias, yes. I think MSNBC learned from Fox and is trying to corner the left wing market. The problem is, left wingers don’t tend to watch any cable news, liberal or otherwise.
But my problem with Fox isn’t primarily with its commentators, but rather what it claimed to be its standard news coverage. And the problem is that it’s been shown not merely to be loaded with bias, but with outright manipulation. False footage to create impressions favoring an agenda. Organizing demonstrations then covering them as spontaneous events, even orchestrating cheers in response to certain statements. Editorial uses of language (ie. “homicide bombers” rather than “suicide bombers”). It all started in the mid-90s when Murdock had some people take over who systematically interviewed all of their employees for their political views and fired everyone with any hint of liberal politics. Completely legal, as there is no discrimination protection for political views. But telling. No other network has done that, not MSNBC, not even Pacifica for that matter.
MSNBC uses NBC news service for its straight out news, and it rates pretty well in the neutrality studies. They obviously do a much better job keeping the departments separated.
But yes, Olbermann is propaganda. He is their Bill O’Reilly. Maddow is their Gretta Van Sustern. Schultz is their Hannity. Matthews is their Brit Hume.
November 25, 2009 at 11:55 am
Anonymous
i think she said exactly what she meant, so i would respectfully disagree with you assuming/suggesting what she meant. it was convenient to have it be a terrorist attack while bush was in office, not it’s not, history ya know, they gotta try to make him look good. repubs have a very short memory when it is something that makes them look bad, they just change it.
November 25, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Fred Mangels
Bringing up that no terrorist attacks took place since 9/11 on Bush’s watch is simply their way of saying Bush defense policy has worked. Nothing more to it than that, I don’t think. No way we can prove one way or the other if we would have had additional attacks with Algore in charge.
November 25, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Fred Mangels
Yep. 30%, but the attack was planned during Clinton’s watch and, but for the fickle finger of fate, the attacks might have ended up happening on Algore’s watch. He lucked out.
As an aside, I’m not sure: Didn’t the first attack on the World Trade Center happen during Clinton’s watch? Or was it Bush Sr.? The one where they blew up the truck bomb in the basement?
November 25, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Matt
And yet, Obama likes her:
“On November 18, 2009, U.S. President Barack Obama nominated Perino to the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG), a board overseeing government-sponsored international broadcasting.”
November 25, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Anonymous
I guess since there were no terrorist attacks against America during Carter’s watch that his policy worked as well.
November 25, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Ernie's Place
Eric said: “The problem is, left wingers don’t tend to watch any cable news, liberal or otherwise.”
Where do left-wingers get their news? Or is it true that they really don’t care about reality. The make their decisions on “how they feel about it.” Sorry, maybe some people don’t see the humor in that.
I really believe that Dana Perino knows that, certainly, World Trade Center Attack II happened on Bush’s watch. What mostly concerns me about America lately is that we are all pitted against one another, to the point that we push up statements that are obviously a mistake, and use them like proof that the other side are idiots. We are all collectively, you and I, the idiots.
We squabble amongst ourselves while we let our politicians give the country away to the crooks on Wall Street. The reason that our politicians sell out to Wall Street is because that is who pays for the political campaigns, and who OWNS the news services. Capitalism will work just fine as long as we don’t let Wall Street run itself. We need rules that they have to follow. Like not selling America to China. We are so irretrievably in debt to China that there are now no good solutions. How did we let that Happen? We squabbled while America burned. And, it wasn’t like we weren’t warned.
November 25, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Eric Kirk
If it wasn’t couched in a lame attack on Obama, we’d cut her some slack. But the mistake isn’t just a slip. It’s part of a long term narrative that 911 was Clinton’s fault.
The studies I’ve read about where liberals get their news indicate that they favor broadcast news, NPR, and newspapers more than conservatives who are more likely to prefer cable news and AM radio, although by far the most common news source for people of any political stripe is news from the three primary broadcasters – NBC, ABC, and CBS from in the early evening. The tradition of coming home for work and turning on the NBC evening news persists despite all of the options. NPR is a major source for educated/affluent liberals. The activist left prefers Pacifica.
The real odd thing is that in some surveys more conservatives watch MSNBC than liberals. Nobody knows why liberals don’t like liberal talk radio or talk television, at least not at the same levels as their conservative counterparts. Maybe they work hard during the day and prefer to relax with a movie or music whereas conservatives like to relax by getting themselves worked up.
O’Reilly commented on it once saying that most liberals prefer NPR because they present the liberal perspective “responsibly.” He didn’t elaborate.
November 25, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Eric Kirk
Well I’m sure it was planned under Bush, right? Maybe even Reagan.
But hey, someone should keep a tally of how many American people, soldiers included have been killed by terrorists on Republican watch as opposed to Democratic. Even leaving out 911, the attack in Lebanon in 1983 probably outnumbers all the Democratic watch victims 10 or 20 to 1.
Just saying.
November 25, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Eric Kirk
Interesting.
November 25, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Anonymous
Maybe Perino just let slip that it wasn’t Al Qaida who bombed the WTC. It was the CIA! Let’s cross that rubicon!
November 25, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Jim A
Um..right. Fox ‘News’ is just CHOCK FULL of ‘truthiness’!!
Sooo glad to see we are all full of hate for each other
during the holidays! THANKS Karl Rove!
Happy Thanksgiving everyone……….
November 25, 2009 at 8:55 pm
moviedad
Thanks Ernie…
November 25, 2009 at 10:55 pm
Hum Depot
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/25/perino-terror-attack-bush/
Of course, the terror attacks on the Pentagon and the World Trade Center occurred on Sept. 11, 2001 — eight months into President Bush’s first term. But also, conservatives like to claim that the Bush administration prevented any terror incidents in the U.S. since 9/11. But they conveniently forget the anthrax attacks on U.S. news organizations and members of Congress over the course of several weeks beginning on Sept. 18, 2001.
And what about that LAX terrorist?
From CNN
Los Angeles airport shooting kills 3
JuLOS ANGELES, California (CNN) — A gunman opened fire Thursday at Los Angeles International Airport while standing in line at the ticket counter of Israel’s El Al Airlines, officials said, killing two and wounding four others before an airline security officer shot him dead. ly 5, 2002 Posted: 3:37 AM EDT (0737 GMT)
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/07/04/la.airport.shooting/
Dana Perino is a …
fill in the blank.
November 25, 2009 at 11:32 pm
Eric Kirk
You could also argue that the abortion killings are terror attacks. And the shooting up of the Unitarian Church in Tennessee.
November 26, 2009 at 8:39 am
Dave Kirby
I disagree, I have not watched a network news product in years. My morning ritual is to start the coffee and then I’m on the net. I like Google news as it will have multiple sources for the same story. I don’t read anything with a FOX “News” tag line as it tends to be slanted. The only time I listen to AM radio is when I’m going to SFO and that’s KGO for their traffic updates. The trouble with even the best T.V. news is time constraints. They really cant do justice to anything remotely complex. I thought it was revealing how quickly Rush’s T.V. show flopped. He really is a niche player. But I believe T.V. is primarily a visual media and watching talking heads doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. Heck I watch a lot of football with sound off. I find the inane chatter coming from most commentators annoying.
November 26, 2009 at 8:56 am
Dave Kirby
Good point Fred. The CIA said that 9/11 may have been as much 10 years in the making. The flip side of that coin is that once it went down and we knew who was responsible the chance of another attack of that magnitude was very small. The huffing and puffing by Cheney and the Bush administration about keeping the country safe was really to cover up the fact that the Iraq war had made the world a more dangerous place by creating more terrorists.
November 26, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Salter
She makes a little mistake and you liberal nutcases are all over her. You are so superior!
November 27, 2009 at 1:52 pm
milt
Jeez, you all missed the other mooslim terrorist attack that lasted 3 weeks back in Oct of 2002. John Allen Muhammad, aka, The Beltway Sniper, ( cka, The 495 Jihadist), was just executed on 11/10, people. Great pains were taken politically not to label the 10 killed and 3 severely wounded shooting victims of Muhammad and Malvo as a” terrorist attack” during their trials. However, the Virginia murder trial of Muhammad found him guilty of killing “pursuant to the direction or order” of terrorism. I also have a feeling that if one researches the Washington D C, Virginia and Maryland papers of Oct ’02, the citizens there may have felt they were under terrorist assault.
Perino wasn’t even Deputy PS then so perhaps in her world nothing counts before 2005.
November 28, 2009 at 8:18 am
moviedad
In the wounds baby, in the wounds.