The topic was the land use element of the General Plan Update, focusing on agricultural lands and timber.
Heraldo’s posted a take on the meeting.
Crickets as usual from the Times Standard. I hope the Sohum papers had people covering it.
I had a radio show last night or I would have attended. If anybody has a report I’ll be happy to post it, regardless of your perspective.
Addendum: There was some discussion of last night’s meeting on Thank Jah this morning. The first or second caller came on to say that Clif Clendenen, Mark Lovelace, and David Cobb had personally attacked Tom Grover and Bonnie Blackberry, and accused them all of corruption. Despite Owl’s best efforts to get the caller to elaborate, it was never clear that he was even talking about the GPU or specifically what had happened last night. Unfortunately then someone called in after that caller to bring up nothing in particular and they all engaged in about 20 minutes of quasi-religious psychobabble. Then Granny Greenjeans called in with a fresh warning about global warming. And then Tom Grover himself called in and clarified that he hadn’t been attacked last night, and admitted that he had been a bit emotional. He then layed out his case which was to acknowledge the good intentions of groups like Healthy Humboldt but to lament that they don’t recognize all the good stewardship practiced by homesteaders and to state opposition to the GPU conversion of Ag designated land to rural residential (which is interesting since I’m pretty sure that RR designation is less restrictive than Ag Exclusive).
Anyway, if you want to hear the show it’s archived. (And for the two readers who emailed questions about my conversation with Shane Brinton last night, you can also listen through the link, but no, we did not integrate a discussion of the GPU into our topic of socialism).
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October 16, 2009 at 12:19 pm
anonymous
Darn, I missed all of this. I think it is interesting how many people consider themselves stewards of the land and all they do is trash it. I really appreciated Klaros’ letter in the paper. Developers are only interested in the money they can make from cutting down trees and putting more people on the land, who will take more water, that we have less of already. Big diesel equipment putting in roads for more silt to go in the rivers and creeks. I wonder what the carbon footprint is that these people who want to live a “tread lightly on mother earth” is after they have put in all the stuff for a rural life? How many lifetimes will it take to undo that footprint?
October 16, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Ed Voice
Well, what you have just described sounds just like the Community Park Board. So I guess you don’t have to look too far from your own back yard to see that carbon footprint and what ripple effect it all has on our neighborhoods, community, wildlife habitat, air, water and humble existence.
Ed Voice & Voice Family
October 16, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Ed Voice
Here is a better link to watch it……….
http://216.102.9.16/archive/2009/20091015.asf
Thanks
Ed Voice & Voice family
October 16, 2009 at 6:10 pm
anonomous says
it’s a monumental waste of time to try and have rational discussions on this blog re: rural land owners and their real and genuine concerns re: how the gpu could affect their ability to live on their land.
the people in the positions of power that will be deciding our fate are completely out of touch with reality:
EXAMPLE- take clendenans pick for planning commish, mell crebs: CREBS said at one of the planning meetings that HE HAS TO THINK ABOUT THE FISH and in order for people to be able to have a house on their land he advocates for very large contiguous tracts of land(larger than 600 acres) and people will be able to have one house on it but it’s got to be 600 acres or more, then he DROPS AN INCREDIBLE BOMB, His whole “rational” for his epiphany he said quote” BECAUSE, SAY WHAT YOU WILL ABOUT PACIFIC LUMBER COMPANY, BUT AT LEAST THEY PROTECTED THE FISH BEHIND THEIR LOCKED GATES” wtf???
HELLO- EARTH TO CREBS…..WASN’T IT PACIFIC LUMBER WHO ALMOST SINGLE HANDEDLY DESTROYED OUR FISH HABITAT????
October 16, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Anonymous
It’s certainly a waste of time to try to have a rational discussion with someone who uses so many capped letters. Stop yelling at me.
October 17, 2009 at 5:15 am
nope
You are just a pissy flock now aren’t you! A man walked into town asked to use the restroom. After he was done he asked to use the phone. After he was done he asked again to use a glass for a drink of water. The man said thanks and walked out of town. the end.
October 17, 2009 at 12:27 pm
anonymous
It is the whole Tooby Ranch sub-division, and it includes the park. Supposed stewards of the land, how many roads had to be put in for you? How much water do you take from the river? Was the land perked? Do you understand how bad sulfites are for the land and water? Cows are one of the worst on the “land”, and their addition to green house gases in tremendous. Grape growing is very water intensive. How much marijuana is being grown up there? How many diesel generators run 24/7? The dust will not be so bad now that it has rained, but how much dust from the summer has ended up in the river now, because of the rain? It is an inconvenient truth, that most people do not want to face, that the impact they have on the land is negative.
October 18, 2009 at 7:47 am
anonomous says
HumCPR mailing letters to property owners
Redwood Times
Posted: 09/30/2009 11:48:49 AM PDT
Thousands of rural landowners will soon receive a letter in the mail from Humboldt Coalition for Property Rights (HumCPR) with details regarding their specific land parcels and how they will be designated in Humboldt County’s proposed General Plan Update (GPU).
The first mailing is being sent to over 4,000 land owners whose right to build a home on their legal parcels will be severely curtailed if not eliminated outright, by proposed new restrictions on rural home building.
The letters, which draw their information from current County databases, inform rural landowners of possible changes to their land use designations and what that may mean for their future plans. They stress that even if a parcel’s designation remains the same or similar, they may be forced to merge contiguous parcels. And the rules governing home ownership, lot line adjustments and parcel size are likely to change dramatically if County Commissioners and Supervisors move forward with a plan that would drastically alter Humboldt’s rural way of life.
Simply put, the data in these letters and a close reading of the proposed re-vamp of the General Plan spells out in very clear terms that building a home on one’s own legal property will be a dream denied to many if proposed changes go through.
”This is a wake up call for rural landowners,” said Estelle Fennell, Executive Director of HumCPR, “We’re very grateful to all the supporters who volunteered time and resources to get this project in the mail so that those who cherish the rural lifestyle will have a clearer understanding of just what’s at stake for them in the GPU.”
Commenting on the fact that, despite repeated requests, the County has failed to send out notifications of the proposed changes to Humboldt County’s resource landowners, Lee Ulansey, founder and chair of HumCPR’s Board of Directors said, “HumCPR has accomplished what the County has not. We saw the need, we did the research and got the job done. We hope this information will prove a valuable tool for county landowners and we encourage all to become involved.”
HumCPR encourages those who do not receive a letter but would like to know their status to call 707-268-8773 or e-mail staff@humcpr.org.
Submitted by Humboldt Coalition for Property Rights
October 18, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Eric Kirk
While I think HumCPR’s rhetoric is often over the top and I see necessity for more planning and regulation in rural development, I do believe they’ve done a service to people by notifying them of potential changes in the legal status of their land and I agree that the county ought to have contacted all such landowners early in the process when mistakes were much easier to correct.