Apparently not satire. Conservatives unhappy with modern translations and I guess concurring that the King James version is a bad translation, want to write a “conservative Bible” with certain principles upheld. I’ve only skimmed the post and I haven’t hit any of the links, so maybe the Kos poster is overreacting. I was aware that it is believed the adulteress parable was added later, but it is believed to have been added in like the 12th century or something, long before anything even remotely amounting to “liberal bias.”
The elimination of Luke 23:34 (exclamation of forgiveness while on the cross) would seem to be more problematic for the fundamentalist as it was in the original. Conservative theologians have often argued that it wasn’t an expression of forgiveness, but rather a reference to a Psalm. But to eliminate it?
It’s not the first time a fundamentalist has proposed something like that. The granddaddy of fundamentalists, Martin Luther, wanted the entire Book of James stricken because it professed salvation by works rather than mere faith and baptism (of water and spirit).
More later.
I’ll try to look a little closer and comment later.
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October 5, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Anonymous
The “throw the first stone” passage has always been one of my favorite parts of the Bible. Only now do I learn that it was inserted as liberal propaganda?
What about the Sermon on the Mount?
October 5, 2009 at 4:30 pm
humboldturtle
Read The Family. These people are everywhere.
October 5, 2009 at 4:43 pm
milt
Conserapedia’s new Conservative Bible Project will, among other endeavors,
Express Free Market Parables; explaining the numerous economic parables with their full free-market meaning.
So, this will be, like, God’s own Derivatives for Dummies ?
October 5, 2009 at 4:46 pm
milt
The sermon on the mount was Jesus’ power point presentation on the efficacy of tax cuts = increased GNP. The loaves and fishes were merely visual aids.
October 5, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Carson Park Ranger
They should stick with the Old Testament — become Orthodox Jews. I suppose that they’d have a hard time giving up the cheeseburgers.
October 5, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Tom Sebourn
The books of Enoch and Mary have already been purged from the bible because they were too hard to believe at the time. Times don’t change much.
Giants and people living 900 years and more. Without science, how will they resolve these issues.
Will they change Genesis to say that god didn’t change his mind? In short, it says that god re-made the earth and then made man. He created him in his own image. Together they played and named all of the animals and then god saw that what he made was not good. He put man asleep and removed a rib and made Eve. Now all was good. Did god make a mistake? Will the new bible try to reconcile why god gave man a penis before he gave man a woman?
(I call god a man because the bible does in this reference. If we were designed by a female god, man would have come second based on the whole, in my own image thing).
The New American Standard is not a bad translation for people like me that didn’t study Shakespeare.
Can’t really criticize it because I haven’t read it yet. I can only imagine.
October 6, 2009 at 4:49 am
Moviedad
My vote is for the: “Jerusalem Bible” the translations have been done by linguists, instead of priests, though there are a few Bishops involved.
The Bible is a compilation of wisdom sayings, cultural references, and false accounting of Israel’s war record.
But there is something more…..Something that touches people. Bring it on…baby!
October 6, 2009 at 7:00 am
Ernie's Place
It is the same old unanswerable question, what came first? God or creation? If God came first, who created him? At some point “Faith” just won’t get you there. The only honest approach is to say that “we just can’t know”.
Somehow, to say that we just can’t know is not accepted. Then people start making up stories to cover the fact that they really don’t know. There is a whole Bible full of them. Whenever modern knowledge makes the Bible seem to be a little ludicrous, they change it.
October 6, 2009 at 10:58 am
suzy blah blah
If God came first, who created him?
Another god.
October 6, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Dave
I don’t see the fuss here. The Bible has been re-written so many times what’s one more translation going to hurt?
The bottom line (to me) is that men wrote all that stuff down. Men created religion to enslave the population and to control them. Think crusades. The Inquisition and the Salem Witch Trials.
I’m more into a personal relationship with a supreme being that does not require me to read certain things or to start wars in his/her name.
Then again I’m probably just crazy and talking to myself!
October 7, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Anonymous
Muslims Believe In JESUS
(Peace be upon him)
To know more please visit : http://islam100.wordpress.com
We are presenting this not to placate you out of policy or diplomacy. We are only articulating what our Creator had commanded us in the Noble Qur’an (Which is translated as follows);
“Say (O Muslim), “We believe in Allah and that which has been sent down to us and that which has been sent down to Abraham (Abraham), Isma’il (Ishmael), Ishaque (Isaac), Ya’qub (Jacob), and to Al-Asbat [the twelve sons of Ya’cub (Jacob)], and that which has been given to Musa (Moses) and ‘Iesa (Jesus), and that which has been given to the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have submitted (in Islam)”. [Chapter 2: verse 136]
As Muslims we have no choice. We had said in many words:
” WE BELIEVE IN ONE CREATOR, WE BELIEVE IN ALL HIS PROPHETS, WE BELIEVE, THAT JESUS (peace be upon him) WAS ONE OF THE MIGHTIEST PROPHETS OF GOD, THAT HE WAS THE MESSIAH AS WELL AS THE WORD OF GOD, THAT HE WAS BORN MIRACULOUSLY- WITHOUT ANY MALE INTERVENTION (which many modern-day Christians do not believe today) , THAT HE GAVE LIFE TO THE DEAD BY GOD’S PERMISSION, AND THAT HE HEALED THOSE BORN BLIND AND THE LEPERS BY GOD’S PERMISSION.”
Islam respects all religions. Nevertheless, Muslims consider the view of Christendom to be a misguided one. The Noble Qur’an highlights the important aspects of Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) mother, his birth, his mission and his ascension to heaven.
VIRGIN MARY:
Story of Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) in the Noble Qur’an starts with the conception of his mother, Mary, when the wife of Imran, Mary’s mother, vowed to dedicate her child to the service of God in the temple. This is mentioned in the following verses (Which is translated as follows);
“(Remember) when the wife of ‘Imran said: “O my Lord! I have vowed to You what (the child that) is in my womb to be dedicated for Your services (free from all worldly work; to serve Your place of worship), so accept this, from me. Verily, You are the All-Hearer, the All-Knowing” “Then when she delivered her child [Maryam (Mary)], she said: “O my Lord! I have delivered a female child,” — and Allah knew better what she delivered, — “And the male is not like the female, and I have named her Maryam (Mary), and I seek refuge with You (Allah) for her and for her offspring from Shaitan (Satan), the outcast.” “So her Lord (Allah) accepted her with goodly acceptance, He made her grow in a good manner and put her under the care of Zakariya (Zachariya). Every time he entered Al-Mihrab (a praying place or private room) to (visit) her, he found her supplied with sustenance. He said: “O Maryam (Mary)! from where have you got this?” She said “This is from Allah” Verily, Allah provides sustenance to whom He wills, without limit” [Chapter 3: verses 35-37]
October 7, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Muqeem
Muslims Believe In JESUS
(Peace be upon him)
To know more please visit : http://islam100.wordpress.com
We are presenting this not to placate you out of policy or diplomacy. We are only articulating what our Creator had commanded us in the Noble Qur’an (Which is translated as follows);
“Say (O Muslim), “We believe in Allah and that which has been sent down to us and that which has been sent down to Abraham (Abraham), Isma’il (Ishmael), Ishaque (Isaac), Ya’qub (Jacob), and to Al-Asbat [the twelve sons of Ya’cub (Jacob)], and that which has been given to Musa (Moses) and ‘Iesa (Jesus), and that which has been given to the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have submitted (in Islam)”. [Chapter 2: verse 136]
As Muslims we have no choice. We had said in many words:
” WE BELIEVE IN ONE CREATOR, WE BELIEVE IN ALL HIS PROPHETS, WE BELIEVE, THAT JESUS (peace be upon him) WAS ONE OF THE MIGHTIEST PROPHETS OF GOD, THAT HE WAS THE MESSIAH AS WELL AS THE WORD OF GOD, THAT HE WAS BORN MIRACULOUSLY- WITHOUT ANY MALE INTERVENTION (which many modern-day Christians do not believe today) , THAT HE GAVE LIFE TO THE DEAD BY GOD’S PERMISSION, AND THAT HE HEALED THOSE BORN BLIND AND THE LEPERS BY GOD’S PERMISSION.”
Islam respects all religions. Nevertheless, Muslims consider the view of Christendom to be a misguided one. The Noble Qur’an highlights the important aspects of Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) mother, his birth, his mission and his ascension to heaven.
VIRGIN MARY:
Story of Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) in the Noble Qur’an starts with the conception of his mother, Mary, when the wife of Imran, Mary’s mother, vowed to dedicate her child to the service of God in the temple. This is mentioned in the following verses (Which is translated as follows);
“(Remember) when the wife of ‘Imran said: “O my Lord! I have vowed to You what (the child that) is in my womb to be dedicated for Your services (free from all worldly work; to serve Your place of worship), so accept this, from me. Verily, You are the All-Hearer, the All-Knowing” “Then when she delivered her child [Maryam (Mary)], she said: “O my Lord! I have delivered a female child,” — and Allah knew better what she delivered, — “And the male is not like the female, and I have named her Maryam (Mary), and I seek refuge with You (Allah) for her and for her offspring from Shaitan (Satan), the outcast.” “So her Lord (Allah) accepted her with goodly acceptance, He made her grow in a good manner and put her under the care of Zakariya (Zachariya). Every time he entered Al-Mihrab (a praying place or private room) to (visit) her, he found her supplied with sustenance. He said: “O Maryam (Mary)! from where have you got this?” She said “This is from Allah” Verily, Allah provides sustenance to whom He wills, without limit” [Chapter 3: verses 35-37]
October 8, 2009 at 5:08 pm
highboldtage
“The Liberals then fled from the scene to plot with Herod’s people against Jesus, and plan how they might destroy him.”
http://conservapedia.com/Mark_1-8_(Translated)
It’s cloud cuckoo time.
have a peaceful day,
Bill