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This is the moment that changed his life, and more importantly the narrative of the “debate.”
He did make an apology yesterday. But not to the Republicans. To the dead.
Addendum: He’s raking in donations from progressives.
Second addendum: Nancy Pelosi says that Grayson’s rhetoric is no worse than the Republicans’, and that there will be no apologies unless everyone apologizes.
And Grayson says he will not apologize to the Republican “lie factory.”
The Mateel received it’s final payment yesterday. The war is officially over.
Let peace reign throughout the land, on every mountaintop, in every village.
The White Dove shall sleep in the sand.
A column posted on Newsmax, a conservative news outlet, has been taken down. Apparently, there are some limits. The column doesn’t technically advocate for a “civilized” military coup to remove President Obama from office, it just suggests that such a move might be obligatory since soldiers take an oath to protect the institutions Obama is putting in jeopardy. The column admits “it’s not an ideal option.”
I believe in free speech and I don’t believe any sanctions should be taken against the author. But you can be damned sure that if this was a left wing writer calling for a military coup to remove Bush, the word “treason” would have been bandied on some websites – including Newsmax.
The author’s name is John Perry.
Talking Points Memo has the text of the column. Here’s a sample:
Military intervention is what Obama’s exponentially accelerating agenda for “fundamental change” toward a Marxist state is inviting upon America. A coup is not an ideal option, but Obama’s radical ideal is not acceptable or reversible.
Newsmax is a conservative site, but not fringe. I’ve never seen “mainstream” discourse take such low roads. Never. On today’s page, their columnist Glenn Beck is once again calling Obama a Nazi. Not on Newsmax, but also in the “mainstream” discourse, a conservative pol calls Obama the “enemy of humanity.”
Yes, left wing demonstrators said the similar things about Bush. But they were fringe, without significant influence in a major party. These people aren’t.
Addendum: And for good measure, the latest RNC fundraising letter compares Obama to Stalin and Kim Jong Il.
As far north as San Francisco. It doesn’t appear that the effect will be that significant up this far. From the National Weather Service:
THIS MESSAGE IS BASED ON EARTHQUAKE DATA… OBSERVED TSUNAMI AMPLITUDES… HISTORICAL INFORMATION AND FORECAST MODELS. A TSUNAMI HAS BEEN OBSERVED AT THE FOLLOWING SITES LOCATION LAT LON TIME AMPL ———————— —– —— ——- ———– APIA WEST SAMOA 13.8S 171.8W 1832UTC 0.70M/2.3FT PAGO PAGO AMER. SAMOA 14.3S 170.7W 1825UTC 1.57M/5.1FT RAROTONGA COOK IS. (NZ 21.2S 159.8E 1950UTC 0.54M/1.8FT FORECASTS INDICATE THAT A TSUNAMI WITH AMPLITUDES IN THE RANGE OF 20 TO 65CM IS EXPECTED ALONG THE CALIFORNIA AND OREGON COAST. TSUNAMIS OF THIS AMPLITUDE CAN GENERATE STRONG CURRENTS DANGEROUS TO THOSE VERY NEAR OR IN THE OCEAN. THE TSUNAMI IS EXPECTED TO BUILD AND REACH ITS MAXIMUM APPROXIMATELY ONE AND A HALF HOURS AFTER THE INITIAL ARRIVAL. FURTHER ARRIVAL TIMES AND OTHER INFORMATION IS LISTED IN THE WEB SITE BELOW. TIME – TIME OF MEASUREMENT AMPL – TSUNAMI AMPLITUDES ARE MEASURED RELATIVE TO NORMAL SEA LEVEL. IT IS …NOT… CREST-TO-TROUGH WAVE HEIGHT. VALUES ARE GIVEN IN BOTH METERS(M) AND FEET(FT). PRELIMINARY EARTHQUAKE PARAMETERS MAGNITUDE – 8.0 TIME – 0948 AKDT SEP 29 2009 1048 PDT SEP 29 2009 1748 UTC SEP 29 2009 LOCATION – 15.3 SOUTH 171.0 WEST – SAMOA ISLANDS REGION DEPTH – 21 MILES/33 KM SANTA BARBARA-CA 2103 PDT SEP 29 SAN FRANCISCO-CA 2125 PDT SEP 29 LA JOLLA-CA 2107 PDT SEP 29 CHARLESTON-OR 2128 PDT SEP 29 CRESCENT CITY-CA 2116 PDT SEP 29 SEASIDE-OR 2201 PDT SEP 29 FOR ARRIVAL TIMES AT ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS SEE WCATWC.ARH.NOAA.GOV
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Not even the weak Schumer bill, the 3 Democrats voted with 10 Republicans to kill the public option in the Finance Committee bill. Give Ben Nelson and Tom Carper credit for coming through in the end despite months of vascillation. At least we know where the Democrats stand, and the question is whether any of these three Democrats or Lieberman will join a filibuster should the final bill contain a public option.
Rockefeller has pledged not to vote for a bill sans a public option, so the question is whether he’ll vote to send this bill to the floor or just kill it (with Republican help) so the Senate can simply move forward on the HELP bill.
But there will be no public option in the Baucus bill.
Baucus has all but ensured that he will face a primary challenge next time around. If progressives in Arkansas sit out in her election, Lincoln’s as good as gone. All three have taken huge insurance industry campaign donations.
The Rockefeller amendment went down 8 to 15. Nelson and Carper of course.
Addendum: Schumer on the vote.
“To come up only two votes shy in the Finance Committee, the most difficult terrain for this proposal in the whole Congress, makes us increasingly optimistic that we can pass a bill with a good public option in the end. We had more votes at the end of the day than we did at the beginning, and many members who aren’t yet for a public option are still approaching us to seek out areas of agreement.”
Josh Marshal is keeping track of the debate. Sen. Jay Rockefeller introduced the bill with harsh words for the insurance industry, and Sen. Max Baucus is reported to have been visibly agitated by the speech.
Sen. Schumer supports the Rockefeller amendment, but of course has introduced his own “level playing field” version in which case the public option would not be linked to Medicare and it would negotiate rather than set fees. That amendment comes up for debate later.
In the meantime Republican Charles Grassely made a remarkable comment that Medicare has become “part of the social fabric of America” just like Social Security, both of which were vehemently opposed by Republicans when initially passed. With that statement, he’s unwittingly set an historical context for the Demorats’ meme – the Republicans oppose it now but will take credit for it in 50 years. Here’s the clip. Ignore the McCain title.
You can watch the hearing live through this link.
Addendum: More pressure on the Blue Dogs.
And a heart-tugging anecdote about an uninsured baby with a faulty heart.
Seven-O-Heaven is maintained by Andrew, who contributes his locally topical photo-comic strips to the North Coast Journal. Contains all of the heretofore published strips and commentary.
Actually, it’s not technically a blog, but it has timed postings, so it’s close enough.
A couple of samples:
I’m still stunned over this. I didn’t know her real well, but I coached her son in soccer last year and she was always there to support him. She was also my client and I had spoken to her just days ago. I know that people involved with the schools, where she was very active, are in shock.
She was on the way back from a trip to Oregon and apparently fell asleep while driving. She had kids in the car, one of them seriously hurt but doing better. Thankfully all of the kids survived.
Jojo posted in a thread below this link to the article about her death. I would caution that the photographs of the vehicle are quite dramatic.
If anyone has photographs of her to post, please send them.
Addendum: The photo above is of Avi and her son Ilon and Tofu’s daughter. Thanks to Tofu who sent the photo.
It’d be nice to have a public option come out of the Senate Finance Committee, all but guaranteeing a public option in the final bill. If there was any doubt, Paul Kirk has now pledged to vote for a public option. Unless Baucus can find another reason to delay, the three public option amendments will be debated and voted upon tomorrow. All eyes are on the conservative Democrats in the committee, none of whom have firmly taken a stand one way or another.
In the House, opposition to the public option is wavering.
Jane Hampshire sets up the status of the conservative Senate Finance Committee Democrats as follows:
- Max Baucus — has said he supports a public plan, despite the fact that his bill doesn’t contain one.
Bill Nelson — acknowledges that a public option would address lack of competition in the health care industry, but said he was against it, then he was “open” to it, and most recently says it must be subject to triggers.Bill Nelson — says emerging public option is “attractive.”
- Kent Conrad — Has always said that “there aren’t enough votes for a public option,” but wouldn’t say if he was one of them. Told Ezra Klein today he would only be open to one that wasn’t tied to Medicare rates — which Schumer’s “level playing field” isn’t.
- Blanche Lincoln — said in July that a public insurance option should be included in any health care bill, but since then has changed her position like some people change their hair color.
- Tom Carper — thinks the job of the Senate Finance Committee is to honor back room deals with PhRMA. Won’t say how he feels about a public option.
There are 13 Democrats and 10 Republicans on the committee, which means they can only lose two Democratic votes and still pass the amendment. So, in order for a public plan to come out of Finance, three of these are going to have to get off the fence.
Again, these Democrats have not said they would ultimately vote against a public option. They’ve only said repeatedly “we don’t have the votes.”
The pressure is on Baucus, who has taken in over 3 million in donations from insurance companies.
This is the time to hit these Senators with emails and telephone calls. The following are talking points:
- The CBO scoring of the House bill shows an additional $85 billion in savings over the Blue Dog/Energy & Commerce version: the public option will save money and bend that cost curve.
- The public option remains popular with majorities of Americans.
- The public option is popular with swing state voters.
- In national polling, voters oppose a mandate to purchase private insurance by 64% to 34% but support a mandate with a choice of private or public insurance by 60% to 37%.
There’s room for cautious optimism at this point, but if even Schumer’s weak public option makes it into the Finance Committee bill, it will be the starting point for negotiations in consolidation with the HELP bill and eventually with the House bill.
The liberal PACs have been busy. Here’s what they’ve been hitting Baucus with in Montana, where the majority support a public option, but he’s taken over 3 million in insurance interest donations.
Addendum: Evan Bayh says the Republicans are irrelevant.
Rep. Raúl Grijalva, a major force behind the public option, slams Baucus in an Op-Ed.
And Howard Dean is warning of a backlash if the Democrats do not pass a public option.
Sometimes SNL has it and sometimes it doesn’t. They don’t have a good character actor for Glenn Beck, and you’d think he’d be easy.
Blue Cross Blues