Yeah, right. They WANT to pay taxes. They just want to get stoned. Putting forth any argument they can to tip public opinion in their favor. So they can get stoned. They have to go with this one because people are starting to see through the “It’s Medicine” B.S.
As usual, some stations using the public airwaves, will not run the ad. Not that anyone in America is afraid of a vigorous public debate in the marketplace of ideas……
I wonder how they would collect these taxes. I suspect a whole new arm of law enforcement would spring up. The Pot Revenuers. Does anyone really think rural small time growers are going pay taxes on their crop? If pot is legalized and the large ag. companies get involved the price will plummet. Maybe it will be more like the wine market. Archer Daniels Midland will be growing 2 buck chuck and the smaller botique growers will be growing specific brands. You know like Salmon Creek Pinot Kush or Reed Mountain Purple Grigio. It would be Interesting.
How would they collect the taxes? Well, the same way they collect other taxes — when you buy something at retail outlet you are taxed by the retailer, who turns the revenues over to the state.
Obviously those buying a little bit of reefer from a friend will probably not report the sale or pay the taxes — just as folks buying other craft products from friends probably don’t report or pay the sales tax.
There’s also been talk of a “grower’s license” which would involve an annual fee. People could avoid paying that fee and grow it unlicensed, but then they would be at risk of being charged with tax evasion. I think most growers would happily pay the fee in order to avoid the risk of prosecution.
One question that I don’t know the answer to is whether growers themselves will be required to pay some kind of sales tax when they sell their product — wholesale — to a distributor or retail establishment, or whether the only taxation would be at the retail level.
It gives a whole new meaning to the term “blowing smoke” doesn’t it?
The people around here haven’t been legit for thr last forty years. It’ll be a cold day in hell before they collect a Marijuana tax in Garberville. I would be like taxing sex…
Hey! What a great idea. Tax sex. The revenuers would at least take an interest in their jobs. (Sorry ma’am, you owe us fifty cents!) They could tax premium sex and oddball positions extra…
There is a really scary aspect to all of this. Lets say that the tax liability is $50. an ounce. Which has been put forward by the legislator who put for the original bill in California. Let’s say you have one pound of pot, unsold. I can totally see an arrangement where the pot would not have to be sold for you to be liable for the tax. so you owe $800. multiply that by the usual harvest, and you start out owing the government a huge bill, and how do they know how much pot you grow? This is just another angle of attack by the parasites that attach themselves common markets. Markets that have been forced to go underground because of the unfair preferential treatment of industries owned by the rich.
One guy, I think it was Jerry Brown, said that the tax liability would not have to wait for a sale to actually occur. Which is the arrangement for almost everything else.
Those who think that anything put forward by the ruling class is going to be good for the common man, is too far gone to reason with.
That would drive it all underground again, or at least a large part of it. I seriously doubt they would tax it before it was sold except perhaps as inventory as would be applied to any business.
All the paranoia about what things would be like under legalization is pointless. Let’s just get the stuff legal so that people aren’t facing large jail sentences and worry about how we’re going to save ourselves money later.
I have read a lot of tantra manuals and I have never seen the Oddball Position mentioned. Can an old man with a bad back do it comfortably?
A link perhaps?
On a more serious note, whilst I am burning up the planet with my Internet usage, here is another tax in the wings… internet greenhouse gas tax!
It’s pretty easy to get paranoid; when you hear the proposals put out by the people who are drafting the new law.
“Oddball Position”: anytime you disagree with the group.
As we move toward the yuppification of Marijuana we need some usable selling data. In short…What was your favorite years harvest for complexity and stoniness? What was the finish like etc. I think most smokers could describe the general taste of each vintage. How intense are the munchies? On a scale of 1-10 how dry does your mouth get. And how long a trail a does a burning match leave on a dark night.
Well, I haven’t smoked it in years, but what I remember from my last toke was that it was pungent, but not overbearing. The flavor was nutty, with hints of hickory and a splash of orange. A bit thin on body, but as a whole I was amused by its presumption.
Have you people never been to a cannabis taste testing party? Never filled out the little cards? Marked 1 grape, 2 lemon, 1 berry, 4 spice, 3 garlic, and 5 cedar? How do you think all of these great tasting strains come into existence, dumb luck?
You make light of this as if taste testing America’s #1 cash crop wasn’t already serious business.
In any case, Honeydew’s 1996 Blueberry was outstanding.
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July 9, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Puff Daddy
Yeah, right. They WANT to pay taxes. They just want to get stoned. Putting forth any argument they can to tip public opinion in their favor. So they can get stoned. They have to go with this one because people are starting to see through the “It’s Medicine” B.S.
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July 9, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Bunny
Wow, well I did live long enough.
July 10, 2009 at 6:45 am
ED Denson
As usual, some stations using the public airwaves, will not run the ad. Not that anyone in America is afraid of a vigorous public debate in the marketplace of ideas……
July 10, 2009 at 6:49 am
Dave Kirby
I wonder how they would collect these taxes. I suspect a whole new arm of law enforcement would spring up. The Pot Revenuers. Does anyone really think rural small time growers are going pay taxes on their crop? If pot is legalized and the large ag. companies get involved the price will plummet. Maybe it will be more like the wine market. Archer Daniels Midland will be growing 2 buck chuck and the smaller botique growers will be growing specific brands. You know like Salmon Creek Pinot Kush or Reed Mountain Purple Grigio. It would be Interesting.
July 10, 2009 at 9:50 am
Eric Kirk
And maybe some company would develope Doritos flavored stuff, so you don’t have to go out and buy the chips. 2 in 1.
July 10, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Skippy
How would they collect the taxes? Well, the same way they collect other taxes — when you buy something at retail outlet you are taxed by the retailer, who turns the revenues over to the state.
Obviously those buying a little bit of reefer from a friend will probably not report the sale or pay the taxes — just as folks buying other craft products from friends probably don’t report or pay the sales tax.
There’s also been talk of a “grower’s license” which would involve an annual fee. People could avoid paying that fee and grow it unlicensed, but then they would be at risk of being charged with tax evasion. I think most growers would happily pay the fee in order to avoid the risk of prosecution.
One question that I don’t know the answer to is whether growers themselves will be required to pay some kind of sales tax when they sell their product — wholesale — to a distributor or retail establishment, or whether the only taxation would be at the retail level.
July 10, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Ernie's Place
It gives a whole new meaning to the term “blowing smoke” doesn’t it?
The people around here haven’t been legit for thr last forty years. It’ll be a cold day in hell before they collect a Marijuana tax in Garberville. I would be like taxing sex…
Hey! What a great idea. Tax sex. The revenuers would at least take an interest in their jobs. (Sorry ma’am, you owe us fifty cents!) They could tax premium sex and oddball positions extra…
July 10, 2009 at 4:40 pm
milt
Unfortunately, taxing sex would never make it through the present Senate.
July 10, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Ernie's Place
Sorry about the typos, It’s hard to see what a person is spelling around belly-laugh tears.
July 12, 2009 at 6:30 am
ecumenik
There is a really scary aspect to all of this. Lets say that the tax liability is $50. an ounce. Which has been put forward by the legislator who put for the original bill in California. Let’s say you have one pound of pot, unsold. I can totally see an arrangement where the pot would not have to be sold for you to be liable for the tax. so you owe $800. multiply that by the usual harvest, and you start out owing the government a huge bill, and how do they know how much pot you grow? This is just another angle of attack by the parasites that attach themselves common markets. Markets that have been forced to go underground because of the unfair preferential treatment of industries owned by the rich.
One guy, I think it was Jerry Brown, said that the tax liability would not have to wait for a sale to actually occur. Which is the arrangement for almost everything else.
Those who think that anything put forward by the ruling class is going to be good for the common man, is too far gone to reason with.
July 12, 2009 at 10:29 am
Anonymous
That would drive it all underground again, or at least a large part of it. I seriously doubt they would tax it before it was sold except perhaps as inventory as would be applied to any business.
All the paranoia about what things would be like under legalization is pointless. Let’s just get the stuff legal so that people aren’t facing large jail sentences and worry about how we’re going to save ourselves money later.
July 12, 2009 at 9:10 am
Lefty
Dare I ask? What is the “Oddball Position” that generate the higher tax rate? I may want to try it before the tax goes into affect!
July 12, 2009 at 11:21 am
olmanriver
I have read a lot of tantra manuals and I have never seen the Oddball Position mentioned. Can an old man with a bad back do it comfortably?
A link perhaps?
On a more serious note, whilst I am burning up the planet with my Internet usage, here is another tax in the wings… internet greenhouse gas tax!
July 12, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Moviedad
It’s pretty easy to get paranoid; when you hear the proposals put out by the people who are drafting the new law.
“Oddball Position”: anytime you disagree with the group.
July 12, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Dave Kirby
As we move toward the yuppification of Marijuana we need some usable selling data. In short…What was your favorite years harvest for complexity and stoniness? What was the finish like etc. I think most smokers could describe the general taste of each vintage. How intense are the munchies? On a scale of 1-10 how dry does your mouth get. And how long a trail a does a burning match leave on a dark night.
July 12, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Eric Kirk
Well, I haven’t smoked it in years, but what I remember from my last toke was that it was pungent, but not overbearing. The flavor was nutty, with hints of hickory and a splash of orange. A bit thin on body, but as a whole I was amused by its presumption.
July 13, 2009 at 11:59 am
Mr. Nice
Have you people never been to a cannabis taste testing party? Never filled out the little cards? Marked 1 grape, 2 lemon, 1 berry, 4 spice, 3 garlic, and 5 cedar? How do you think all of these great tasting strains come into existence, dumb luck?
You make light of this as if taste testing America’s #1 cash crop wasn’t already serious business.
In any case, Honeydew’s 1996 Blueberry was outstanding.
July 13, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Eric Kirk
Let me know when they come up with an apple pie and ice cream flavor!
July 13, 2009 at 7:42 pm
milt
Be careful what you wish for. Of course, everyone has their own favorite flavor ice cream but you can’t go wrong with a classic a la mode.
July 15, 2009 at 10:00 am
Mr. Nice
Vanillaluna tastes pretty much like pie and ice cream. Not that I would know… what pie and ice cream taste like, that is.