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From Jim Versluys by e-mail. And believe it or not, he sent it to me without having even read one of Stephen Lewis’ rants. The dynamics probably apply to some other issues as well, such as abortion. Or 911.
Hey Eric- guest post? Maybe not- this is a bit complex and maybe a bit hard for your crew to follow.
I have to say I agree with the closing statements of this article. The last paragraph.
I used to hate the whole Israeli question because it forced you into declaring, which always in turn forces you down some rabbithole of conviction, sidling up to people who you think…’how the hell did I get here?’. Admit a few Israeli missteps and do some finger pointing, next thing you know you’re being praised by David Duke as a “forward thinker” on some panel. Find the Palestinians a little on the..um, crazy side and suddenly some New Republic editor is enlisting you in his “many more Israeli settlements!” craziness.
As I said, I used to hate it. Now I enjoy it for the same reason: it shows how people tend to naturally reason when confronted with any ultimate question: if they’re crazy here, they’re probably unsound in some deep part of their character. Even when they have some seemingly incongruous belief on either side, it shows to what extent and how quickly that person dives deeply into the well of illogicality. How a person goes crazy over Palestine is how that person goes crazy.
So now, it always interests me to read what I used to pass over in near silence. What a useful little subject. Call it the Rorschach Test for politics.
Jim
And then a response from Menshevik.
Jim is right…in all my yrs. of following (well more like adding deeper layers to my OCD) the ‘effing Israeli/Palestinian conflict and the Americans on Left and Right who align, in pretty predictable ways with their fellow ethno-religious fanatics, I’ve found that if activist X waves banners for Hezbollah or the lunatic Settlers on the West Bank, their stands on all other issues are just as devoid of sense. What Jim calls a Rorschach Test, I’ve long called the Rashomon Effect.
Jim, is wrong about TNR editors though. even Marty Peretz has long called for dismantling the Settlements. Has never supported Likud. Though he has always distrusted the doves in Labour like Shimon Peres.
The rest of that website has a lot worth trawling through. Through that webpg. I found a great video that debunks the MSM coverage of the killing of that Palestinian boy being shielded by his Dad, Muhamed al Durah, that got tons of coverage everywhere. See,
http://www.seconddr aft.org/aldurah. php
You can listen at 91.1 or if you’re in Nohum at 89.3. Or you can tune it in on the web.
Hopefully Arkley, or someone on his behalf will be interviewed as well.
It will be played again at 8:00 tomorrow morning. I’m not sure if the news is archived at the site yet.
Addendum: A very good interview, marred only by the fact that there was no mention of even attempting to contact the other side for comment. I believe Larry’s account, but that’s not good.
A side note – Anna Hamilton will have Roger Rodoni on her show at 7:00 tonight.
The same one he’s been vetoing since he came to office. Will they still have the numbers and will to pass it in 2011 when they’re more likely to have someone in office who won’t veto? It’s odd that the Democrats waited until a Republican was in office to start passing measure like this.
Found a great summary of the history of gay marriage politics in California.
Photo comes from the Michigan Daily.
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