Subterranean sexism, warrior image, rugged individualism, yadda, yadda, yadda….
And it doesn’t help if the feminists don’t like her. Actually, they hate her.
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April 30, 2007 at 8:02 am
Anonymous
Yes
April 30, 2007 at 2:43 pm
Anonymous
Why is it even a question?
April 30, 2007 at 2:49 pm
Anonymous
Too bad its Hillarys turn. If she wasn’t so damn evil we might be able to answer yes to the question. its not just the feminists who don’t like her.
April 30, 2007 at 3:28 pm
Carol
and there are a lot of men and women that love her
April 30, 2007 at 4:10 pm
mresquan
Well,I plan on voting for Cynthia Mckinney and hope that its not inconceivable that a black woman be elected president.
April 30, 2007 at 4:21 pm
Anonymous
Yes… Mary Carey for president!
April 30, 2007 at 4:42 pm
Anonymous
She is much liked in NY and has built a reputation as an effective legislator. She is known for her hard work and ability to listen to an argument and work with opponents.
April 30, 2007 at 5:02 pm
Nick Bravo
Ann Coulter for President. Or Condi Rice. Most women in gov’t could run the country better than Shrillary and her pet weiner.
April 30, 2007 at 5:11 pm
Eric V. Kirk
Why is it even a question?
Well, in 43 presidents how many women have been elected? Statistically speaking, that’s very remarkable since women represent slightly over half of the population. Hence the question.
April 30, 2007 at 5:29 pm
Nick Bravo
Far better choices than shrillary.
Yes, I can’t stand her. What I’d give to walk up to her and remind her she is NOT royalty and that she IS a servant of the people elected by the people and the people are tired of her aristocatic arrogance.
April 30, 2007 at 5:51 pm
Nick Bravo
Sacred Grounds. Today. 1:00 pm. Be there, we can discuss this like men.
April 30, 2007 at 6:23 pm
Anonymous
I’ll be there too with a hidden video cam!
April 30, 2007 at 6:31 pm
Nick Bravo
All I plan on doing is having a conversation with you in a neutral environment. I don’t plan on doing anything to you. Also, I refuse to do something so stupid as to show up at your local haunts late at night, especially when I don’t even know what you look like.
Why are you so hateful towards me?
April 30, 2007 at 7:12 pm
Anonymous
No video camera Nick, or I will not walk up to you.
April 30, 2007 at 7:15 pm
Anonymous
It will be hidden so you can ignore it. Just act natural and smile!
April 30, 2007 at 7:18 pm
Anonymous
Would Hillary be our first Gay pres? And if so, would she come out of the closet?
April 30, 2007 at 7:29 pm
Anonymous
If, say, 60 percent of the voting public came out first, to allow for sampling error and vote suppression.
April 30, 2007 at 7:33 pm
Anonymous
Yes, but not the Hildebeast.
April 30, 2007 at 7:58 pm
Anonymous
IMHO if a white good looking male politician did the same stuff Hillary has done it would be considered mostly shrewd moves. Double standard.
April 30, 2007 at 8:07 pm
Eric V. Kirk
Gee. The meeting should have started by now. Will we get a report?
April 30, 2007 at 9:31 pm
Andy S
Eric, the statements about Nick should be deleted. You should not let your website be used for such malicious, rampant speculation.
April 30, 2007 at 10:05 pm
Anonymous
Nick never showed his crooked little face, and I ran out of time.
April 30, 2007 at 10:08 pm
Anonymous
“a filthy dog will always jump into a cold lake when a filthy dog is also ugly.”
WTF does that mean???
April 30, 2007 at 10:17 pm
Nick Bravo
I waited till 1:15. You never showed so I left. Why should I spend god knows how long waiting for some anonymous coward!
April 30, 2007 at 10:20 pm
The Shadow
What an exciting non-event!
April 30, 2007 at 10:23 pm
Anonymous
Nick’s adventures are endlessly fascinating, but let’s get back to the female president discussion. ]
Hillary looks like a good choice and she may also make history as the first Gay pres, if she can work up the courage.
April 30, 2007 at 10:41 pm
Eric V. Kirk
Andy – done.
April 30, 2007 at 11:20 pm
Anonymous
Hillary is nothing but a closet socialist. She would be a horrible choice. She’s pro-tax and anti-business. Imagine the hell that is Arcata times 300 million plus.
Question is…which would happen first…her impeachment or her assasination.
May 1, 2007 at 4:04 am
Anonymous
my mom said that if i didn’t anything nice to say, I should say nothing at all, when Hillary is concerned i have to ignore my mom.
male or female, she is the most two faced duplicitious screwball around, she has no ethics whatsoever, so I guess that makes her a good politician HUH???
Anonymous said…
IMHO if a white good looking male politician did the same stuff Hillary has done it would be considered mostly shrewd moves. Double standard.
I think you are creating a double standard and being a sexist ass.
May 1, 2007 at 4:06 am
Eric V. Kirk
The last two posts convince me even more that she’s going to win.
May 1, 2007 at 4:23 am
Anonymous
I posted the go Hillary comment but Kucinich looks better to me as a presidential canidate. Feel free to correct me if I spelled his name wrong.
May 1, 2007 at 4:24 am
Anonymous
Well, when I first saw the topic of this thread, I was interested. When I clicked on the responses, I was disgusted. Trash as usual, for the most part. Eric is a saint, for allowing all of this anon BS on his bog. Those of us with a brain don’t associate Eric with the posts of the mentally challanged.
Hillary? who cares. Amy Goodman for Prez… but of course, that will never happen. It would be too healthy.
May 1, 2007 at 4:27 am
Anonymous
Ok, I got candidate on my own.
May 1, 2007 at 4:33 am
Anonymous
Amy Goodman for Prez! Too cool! Democracy now could be broadcast from the white house!
May 1, 2007 at 5:01 am
Anonymous
Sloth is all talk.
May 1, 2007 at 5:04 am
Eric V. Kirk
I don’t think Goodman would be interested. Then again, Arthur Clark once commented that nobody should be president who actually wants to be president. Maybe we should have a compulsory draft system where somebody nominates you and if you’re voted in you have to serve as president.
May 1, 2007 at 5:40 am
Anonymous
A compulsory draft then we nominate the candidates and the MSM decides who the front runners are. Then some push polling and a bogus right to vote law and voter scrub lists, uncounted ballots, electronic voting machines with hokum software, not enough ballots in minority precincts…
Well, I agree with you up to a point, Eric.
May 1, 2007 at 6:08 am
Anonymous
The Hillary critics have given us a lesson in mindless name calling so far. Care to provide an actual example, based on something Hillary did, of why a vote for her would be misplaced?
May 1, 2007 at 6:25 am
Anonymous
Hillary has a “you can’t have MacDonalds without MacDonald-Douglas” mindset. I’ve had enough of that kind of representation.
May 1, 2007 at 6:55 am
Anonymous
I’m voting for Edwards!
May 1, 2007 at 7:32 am
Anonymous
Kindly, spare us the details of her “mindset.” Which actual policies of her’s do you object to and why?
May 1, 2007 at 3:40 pm
Anonymous
Hillary will dance with them that brung her. Her campaign is awash with corporate and AIPAC money. Her domestic and foreign policies will mirror those constituencies’ interests. She is the bride at every wedding right now, but, her social policies, environmental policies and foreign policies will be driven by free trade, and democracy here and abroad will be the corpse at every funeral as it languishes under the Patriot Act, Globalization, sanctions, and nothing will really change.
Which of Dennis Kucinich’ policies do you have a problem with?
May 1, 2007 at 6:26 pm
Anonymous
In other words, you haven’t bothered to actually learn what Clinton’s policies are and you have no idea what successful legislation she has sponsored. Instead we get a litany of your fears about “Globalization” and “AIPAC” etc.
May 1, 2007 at 7:24 pm
Anonymous
Yes! Globalization and AIPAC are root and branch of profound human suffering, both here in this country where our tax dollars are confiscated to support a bloated pentagon budget and through out the third world where our military foements chaos and genocide when the World Bank and the IMF fail to inslave countries to american corporations through predatory lending practices. Our country has become a Corporatocracy through no small effort by the Reagon, Bush, Clinton, Bush administrations. Fascism is choking the life out of our democracy. You should worry about that!
May 1, 2007 at 8:15 pm
Anonymous
Thank you for the paranoid spin. This litany is the mantra of the paranoid left…don’t confuse this person with facts. Note: not one position or legislation has been referenced. He hasn’t got a clue what Clinton represents and isn’t willing to find out.
May 1, 2007 at 8:36 pm
Eric V. Kirk
Her vote for war authorization re Iraq and her vote for the Patriot Act diminish her as a candidate in my eyes. There are other policies, but those are the two defining votes for me.
I’m not saying I won’t vote for her if she wins the nomination. But I will definitely not vote for her in the primary.
May 1, 2007 at 8:39 pm
Anonymous
And 12:24, you should learn to spell:
inslave?
May 1, 2007 at 9:08 pm
Anonymous
Paranoid spin? Well her vote against burning the American flag brought out such overwhelming feelings of pandowdy patriotism that I lowered my flag to half staff in quiet protest. I will vote for Kucinich in the primary, most likely.
Please correct my spelling, 1:39. Thankyou.
Oh, 1:15, I am not a paranoid liberal, I’m a pissed off liberal. Are you a Limbaugh democrat?
May 1, 2007 at 10:04 pm
Anonymous
Valid objections, Eric and let’s hope you are right about the war. Perhaps you’ve seen the “politically incorrect” soldier’s view of Iraq in today’s NYT editorial section.
Clinton’s reputation in NY is for flexibility, even in tough negotiations. Again and again she has won the respect of her opposition, by virtue of her hard work and ability to work with others.
May 1, 2007 at 10:58 pm
Anonymous
I have noticed allot of my Democrat Friends are voting for Hillary simply because she is a woman. They don’t even know her stances on issues or history. I think she would obviously be leagues ahead of GWB, that much is obvious. But please don’t vote for her just because she has a vagina! Look at the record.
Based on the record I have to say Kucinich has been great. But he looks like a mortician, so he will never win. So, between form and substance is John Edwards. He’s not perfect but he is between Hillary and Kucinich in my eyes. Better in terms of substance than Hillary, and better looking than Kucinich. He is also a southerner, and a southerner that southerners like. We Democrats have not won the presidency without the south since Civil Rights of the Johnson Administration. Unfortunately I think Johnson was right, Democrats have lost the south not for 30 years but for 40. John Edwards is the guy who can win. He is also the guy who can finally allow the south to let go their hate towards the democrats for desegregation and equal rights.
May 2, 2007 at 12:08 am
Cristina Bauss
“…Kucinich has been great. But he looks like a mortician, so he will never win.”
I just about died laughing when I heard Colbert describe him as a “woodland creature.” Poor Dennis!
But hey, it’s GOT to be better than looking like the guy on the cover of Mad magazine. What’s his name? Alfred E. Neuman?
May 2, 2007 at 2:15 am
Anonymous
Am I the only one who sees these personal attacks on Clinton as evidence of sexism? If I’m right, this will limit her chances of winning, simply because she is female.
May 2, 2007 at 2:20 am
Anonymous
BTW, AIPAC has not endorsed a candidate for president. They seem to like Obama at this point.
http://www.aipac.org/index.asp
May 2, 2007 at 4:07 am
Anonymous
Cristina, what does a mortician look like? Personal attacks on the Clintons are shameful. I will vote for Hillary if my only other choice is a Repub. I’d vote for a Code Pink candidate before I would vote for Hillary. You know, we are all steeped in MSM. It’s not a beauty contest.
May 2, 2007 at 4:12 am
mresquan
7:15,Cynthia Mckinney is much more in touch with America’s core values than Hillary is.
May 2, 2007 at 4:52 am
Anonymous
mresq,
Did you mean to say MY core values?
May 2, 2007 at 4:55 am
Anonymous
On Cynthia McKinney:
http://www.adl.org/PresRele/ASUS_12/4869_12.htm
May 2, 2007 at 4:54 pm
Eric V. Kirk
I’ve got serious criticisms of McKinney, but the ADL probably doesn’t have a whole lot of credibility with this crowd. They seem to home in on leftist anti-semitism while giving the right wingers a bye.
May 2, 2007 at 5:18 pm
Anonymous
Right. And this hypocrisy will destroy the left if it is not confronted and opposed.
May 2, 2007 at 7:27 pm
Cristina Bauss
“Cristina, what does a mortician look like? “
I don’t know. I didn’t say it. I was quoting someone else (anonymous, of course!).
May 2, 2007 at 8:44 pm
Anonymous
I said that, not Cristina. And it was about Kucinich, not your vagina’d savior!
May 3, 2007 at 1:06 am
Anonymous
1:44 provides a perfect answer to the question Eric posed. It’s still considered OK to take vicious (and in this case pathetically dumb) pot shots at a woman based solely on her gender.
May 3, 2007 at 6:38 am
Anonymous
Wow, no sense of humor. The republicans must have gotten to you.