So, does anybody else think the term “suicide bomber” is “romantic?” Besides Fox News I mean, which has taken it’s “homicide bomber” crusade so far that it actually doctors AP reports.
“Suicide bomber” is descriptive. I know what Orwell had to say about it, but a news agency should at least attempt to find language that informs rather than inflames.
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While waiting in a live lobster tank to be sold and boiled live, these sentient creatures (who can look you in the eye) are starved with their claws clamped so that they cannot easily cannibalize each other in their state of starvation. The tank features bright lights with nowhere to hide after an intercontinental jet plane ride for these marine animals used to the dark ocean depths.
Not to sound like the average braindead anti-vegetarian, but the co-op has refrigerated shelves of dead animals which have been killed in all sorts of gruesome ways. I’m not sure boiling is the worst alternative. They say that when your head is chopped off you remain conscious with your head in the basket for several moments. Don’t know how “they” know that, but it’s what “they” say. Would Ms. Devine be happier if they turned down the lights? Should they stop selling crab altogether – I mean is it better if they’ve already been boiled?
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On KMUD this morning, Kevin Hoover proclaimed himself “iconoclast” because he doesn’t like green bean casserole. I guess I have to join him, but then I’m not really a fan of any casserole (yes, all my nordic ancestors are rolling in their graves) unless you count lasagne. I’m especially not impressed with the ones with soggy potato chips. And my nordic relatives included, you can bet that as bland as that carbo-brick is they probably doubled their spices for your benefit.
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The TS’ “toasts and roasts” includes a roast for voters who can’t follow instructions thereby holding off the results for weeks on end. Does that include the man/woman who folded a ballot into a paper crane?
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The DOJ is suing states which have filed inquiries about the wiretapping program pursuant to state laws. The most interesting developments are in Maine where pressure was put on Verizon to come clean as to its cooperation with the NSA. Verizon issued some sort of statement for which Maine’s PUC requested clarification, and the DOJ is arguing that for Verizon to even verify it’s prior statement would endanger America’s security. Maine’s PUC has been dragged into the conflict (kicking and screaming) by a maverick PUC retiree who doesn’t think its been doing its job.
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More potential good news for Democrats in the recent election results. Apparently, the Republican domination of suburbia is in question.
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No news about yesterday’s Mateel Board meeting. Unfortunately, my day job’s going to keep me pretty well occupied for the next week and a half, so news is going to have to come to me if I’m going to post it.

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November 27, 2006 at 6:36 pm
mresquan
In the primary in June,Lamont took the suburban areas in Conn.,while Lieberman took the cities.I predict within the next few years,the bay area cities will turn a bit more right as the lefties will leave for greener pastures.With real estate becoming the sole cash cow for cities(regardless if its considered to be on the decline),and industry gone totally oversees,there’s no place for blue collar workers(consisting of liberal dems)to go but up and coming rural areas with incentive to build other viable industrial economies.Thus,leaving cities the potential to be dominated by more right wing investors who drive out industry and replace it with retail or their version of affordable housing,like Horowitz in L.A. or what Security National does in cities across the midwest.
November 27, 2006 at 6:38 pm
Anonymous
“Homicide bomber” implies the killer is still alive, or at best, leaves the question unanswered. A person who installs a remote-controlled roadside bomb is a “homicide bomber.” Fox News is just dumb.
November 27, 2006 at 6:42 pm
Anonymous
The lobster aquarium is the hottest new toddler attraction. Every day there are parents bringing their kids by for a look. The show was pretty slow this weekend with only one lonely and reclusive lobster on display. You can look at Bill the Chimp only so many times before he gets dull. Lobsters are the Next Big Thing.
November 27, 2006 at 6:57 pm
Anonymous
I say you put a Humboldt dungeness crab in with the lobster and let them duel in an aquariam cage match to the delicious death. Granny Green Genes: something you should know, lobster meat is simply devine.
November 27, 2006 at 7:17 pm
Heraldo
Eric, if your chips are getting soggy you are making the huge mistake of baking the casserole with the lid on.
November 27, 2006 at 8:25 pm
Anonymous
“homicide bomber crusade”
“Iraq is in a civil war crusade”
Both sides are guilty, only you choose to highlight the ones yoiu agree with.
Same with media outlets doctoring stories. You have deliberately ignored numerous cases of left leaning media outlets doctoring news stories.
Typical liberal hypocrite.
November 27, 2006 at 8:29 pm
Eric V. Kirk
Well, personally I think the media has editorialized on behalf of the administration for years by refusing to call it a civil war. I think they’re kind of forced to concede at this point. But you raise a good point about objectivity – you say “potato.”
However, I’m not aware of any “liberal media outlets” doctoring AP stories. Can you link me to an example?
November 27, 2006 at 8:30 pm
Eric V. Kirk
Heraldo – never attempted to make one myself. I was referring to traumatic childhood experience.
November 27, 2006 at 8:43 pm
Anonymous
Just wondering how many lurkers are anti-choice lobster-lovers?
I say if you don’t like ‘em don’t buy ‘em.
I think this is pretty interesting as it relates to the attempted ban on Coke products. The ban passed a poor-turnout vote but management decided that consumers should choose with the wallets.
What does our Libertarian Fred think?
-JMan
November 27, 2006 at 9:10 pm
Anonymous
Who the heck said anything limiting story doctoring to the AP?
Does Rather-gate ring any bells with you? Not satisfied with merely doctoring existing documents, he ran with obviously forged documents and STILL stands by his report.
How about virtually all left leaning media outlets printing Al-Jazeera news reports verbatim for years?
The stories are out there and endless if you can just can just pull yourself away from Kos and other like minded sites.
November 27, 2006 at 9:15 pm
Anonymous
Some folks choose not to meet their dinner in person.
Its a form of denial to purchase previously live animal meat in a cellophane pkg and yet be horrified at others who choose to buy live crabs and lobsters.
What is the difference? There is no difference *except* this person doesn’t wish to bear witness to the death of the animal that becomes their dinner. It is a little ‘much’ to criticize a food choice of someone else. If the writer is in fact carnivor-she is also a hypocrite and should be publicly shamed for it.
November 27, 2006 at 9:43 pm
Eric V. Kirk
Dan Rather did not doctor a report prepared by another news organization. He wrote his own report based upon what appears to have been a bad source, and seems to be in denial about it. What Fox does is to take reports prepared by other news organizations and interject its editorialism while benefitting from AP’s reputation of objectivity. I don’t know of any other news agency, liberal, conservative, or otherwise, that does that.
November 27, 2006 at 11:10 pm
Anonymous
Many left leaning media outlets print Al-Jazeera propaganda without fact-checking. Really Erik, why aren’t you as offended by that?
November 27, 2006 at 11:13 pm
Heraldo
Many left leaning media outlets print Al-Jazeera propaganda without fact-checking.
Which ones? I don’t recall ever seeing this.
November 27, 2006 at 11:21 pm
Anonymous
Anon 1:15. I frequently meet my dinner in person, and so do the other homeless people I hang around. Heck, whaddya think happened to that toothless hilaire snot? He was good eatin. A bit gristly but hey ya gotta take whattya can catch and those little high school girls are pretty dang slippery.
November 27, 2006 at 11:30 pm
Anonymous
I make a point of buying my Coca-Cola from the Co-op even though the Co-op is ridiculously over-priced on just about everything.
November 27, 2006 at 11:57 pm
Anonymous
Leave it to you to listen to that shitty Monday morning show on KMUD, that has to be the worst program on that entire station.
November 27, 2006 at 11:58 pm
Eric V. Kirk
anon 3:10 – I’m not aware of any particular incidents re Al Jazeera and the “liberal media.” I’m also not sure what you mean by the “liberal media,” though usually coming from right wingers it means any media not owned by Murdoch or the Moonies.
Fox News also cites from Al Jazeera.
November 28, 2006 at 1:23 am
Rev. Steve
8 out of 19 topics on your blog are about the MMC/PP feud. And you don’t think you promote conflict on your blogsite, eric?
If a conflict topic slows down and begins to fail to deliver the necessary fix you stir the pot some more. Conflict Addicts Anonymous, eric, you can learn to kick the habit.
November 28, 2006 at 1:39 am
Eric V. Kirk
Actually Steve, right now I’m part of a broad effort to broker a resolution, and the blog entries are designed to keep people informed and pressure upon all parties. This is THE topic of discussion down here right now, and what you’re seeing is the product of years of simmering tensions that have finally blown up. And what you see on this blog – and on the ROR forum – it’s the tip of the iceberg, and in fact it’s been very calm by comparison to what is happening in real life. In fact, I’m getting compliments from both camps notwithstanding some tension based remarks here and elsewhere, so unless you have some specific specific criticism other than the mere fact that I’m dedicating much of the blog to the conflict, let me know.
November 28, 2006 at 1:52 am
artslut
Lobster tank empty at the Eureka Coop. As I was purchasing grass fed beef, asked the friendly meat/poulltry/seafood gal, “What next? Crab?. She replied, “No way, we will have crab”. I strongly suggested not to bend over to the anti antis regarding the [local] crab. Apparently, if it’s local fare, no one is going to bitch. I will not become a member because the Coop caved to the lobster police. But, one issue is interesting. In addition to landlord-ship, Arkley also receives 1% of the profits. That issue upsets a few people, as they were still shopping at the Eureka Coop, sheepishly.
brrrrr
November 28, 2006 at 2:22 am
Rev. Steve
Oh, eric, you saint you. Dedicating your conflict addict’s time to a conflict addicts’ idea of heaven, a grand mal conflagration of combatants at the Mateel Community Center.
What next hoary old simmering conflicts awaits your exploitation by promoting it on your blogsite? Isn’t it wonderful that conflicts abound and conflict resolution doesn’t? Makes life so very interesting if not pleasant.
November 28, 2006 at 2:22 am
Fred
“I frequently meet my dinner in person, and so do the other homeless people I hang around. Heck, whaddya think happened to that toothless hilaire snot? He was good eatin. A bit gristly but hey ya gotta take whattya can catch and those little high school girls are pretty dang slippery.”.
I may be wrong, but I don’t think this is Plazoid. I think we have a troll here.
I’ve gotten this weird stuff on my blog, too.
November 28, 2006 at 2:22 am
Anonymous
I stopped shopping at the Arcata co-op because of the crazies out front. Now I avoid the Eureka co-op because of the Arkley factor.
Good thing there is Wildberries and Eureka Natural Foods.
November 28, 2006 at 2:40 am
Anonymous
Arkley gets a cut of the Arcata store too. They suck big time on fair wages for labor, plus they’re in bed with Arkley, plus they suck up to Kevin Hoover, three good reasons to give them the finger and go to Eureka Natural Foods or Wildberries.
November 28, 2006 at 2:51 am
samoasoftball
I for one do not like the new CO-OP. I went there quite a bit when it was by City Hall, and my wife used to go to the deli more often than we do now. It was smaller and homey feeling. And when it rained here lately at the new location, it leaked! And we have not even started the rainy season! Not a good sign.
November 28, 2006 at 2:54 am
Anonymous
Ditto. Waiting for Eureka Natural Foods.
November 28, 2006 at 3:29 am
Anonymous
The New Eureka Co-op is cold and depressing. I hate the concrete floor.
Ray’s on the other hand is nice and cheery with corporate goodness. Give me the GMO’s. Yum
November 28, 2006 at 3:40 am
Anonymous
Since you losers don’t like the new Co op I think I’ll give it a try! And giving Arkley that 1% is fine with me, he can use the money to mess with the leftie freaks.
November 28, 2006 at 3:42 am
Anonymous
If the Co-Op is only left with the Arkleyites to shop there it will close, since the place is so top-heavy with administration it can’t compete price-wise with any other local store.
November 28, 2006 at 4:20 am
Anonymous
If you tickle the lobster,or crab’s belly for about 1 minute before tossing them in the boiling pot they don’t feel a thing.Or is it Arkley’s belly? I forget.
How bout a non-profit jerk lobster booth at Reggae. Might not that stir up the pot?
November 28, 2006 at 5:34 am
Anonymous
As to suicide bomber being “romantic”. It just sounds nicer than crazyphychoMFing killer.
November 28, 2006 at 6:01 am
Anonymous
“Homicide Bomber” is a phrase that a few years ago was being pushed as a substitute for “suicide bomber.”
Who was doing the pushing? Israel and its representatives in our country. Also by neo-cons of the sort who invented the war in Iraq to feed their desire for world domination.
The phrase “Homicide Bomber” did not find a place in the lexicon of the American media. In other words, it was so patently obvious as a piece of political propaganda that even the MainStream Media choked on it.
Calling a mass murderer a “Homicide Bomber” does not make him or her any more despicable than calling her or her a “Suicide Bomber.” In addition, it ignores a distinctive fact of these atrocious acts – the person who inflicts the conflagration dies in it, along with his or her intended victims.
November 28, 2006 at 6:32 am
Anonymous
Is there enough room between the floor and the ceiling of the new Co-op to hang a replica of “The Spirit of St. Louis?”
THAT would draw the customers in!
November 28, 2006 at 6:39 am
Eric V. Kirk
Since you losers don’t like the new Co op I think I’ll give it a try! And giving Arkley that 1% is fine with me, he can use the money to mess with the leftie freaks.
Interesting.
Apples?
November 28, 2006 at 7:08 am
Hank Sims
“Homicide bomber” is redundant, unless the bomber in question doesn’t actually succeed in killing anyone. Why not just “bomber,” if you’re going to go that way?
The Republican word-making machine doesn’t often fail, but it really laid an egg with that one. Even “freedom fries” fulfilled its purpose.
November 28, 2006 at 10:32 am
Anonymous
Fred, it indeed is me. As I’ve said before, we at the Plazoid are a richly diverse group of homeless people who have banded together to fight for the rights of the homeless. Now whilst it may seem strange to you as of late that the posts have been a bit off center you must remember that every winter we get a new influx of homeless men and boys. Sadly few homeless women or girls because they quickly find out about our beleif that if they belong to our “tribe” every tribe member can do what they choose with them.
I digress. Point is that it indeed is still I in charge of the Plazoid blogsite and plan on being more vocal in the future as to ensure rights to the homeless.
The Arcata homeless community took a huge hit in the last election due to losing Meserve and acquiring Stillman and Wheetley, both of whom expect the homeless to get jobs, dwellings, soap, and other so called modern neccesities.
To this we give a loud and resounding “NO!”.
It is the duty of every working stiff to ensure that the homeless remain fat and happy. I also remind the working stiffs to please leave your doors and windows unlocked when you aren’t home and please please please keep your daughters hot tub parties in clear view of all dumpsters and alleys.
November 28, 2006 at 12:40 pm
Anonymous
I’m wondering what Plazoid plugs his laptop into – has McKinley been wi-fied?
Tuesdays is free latte day at the java shop next to Caravan of Dreams. Stock up. Vollyball starts promptly around 11 ish.
November 28, 2006 at 4:46 pm
Anonymous
Erik-Heraldo: the site Little Green Footballs will furnish you with many instances of left leaning media sources dishonest reporting techniques.
November 28, 2006 at 6:27 pm
Anonymous
Neither Erik nor Heraldo would deign to read LGF. They consider it right wing propoganda beneath their contempt. Never mind that it’s accuracy rating dwarfs Kos. Keep your head in the sand boys. The position suits you.
November 28, 2006 at 6:33 pm
Eric V. Kirk
My last visit to LGF was about a month and a half ago. I read a post alleging that the Mark Foley scandal was a DNC conspiracy and that the pages had been paid to slander him, and that he had decided to fall on the sword without a fight for the good of the party.
Sorry, but I prefer to get my right wing propaganda fix from the professionals – National Review, American Spectator, Human Events, etc. In one of them neocon player and talking head Bill Krystal admitted that the whole right wing “liberal media establishment” thing is a hype designed to “play the ref” (his words).
November 28, 2006 at 9:13 pm
Anonymous
Well then, it must be true.
Did he say if there was going to be a City Slickers III?
I just read that Queen Pelosi is NOT backing that cheating nigger Alcee Hastings. A little ray of light,,,,
November 28, 2006 at 9:36 pm
Eric V. Kirk
I would say that he’s in a position to know.
November 28, 2006 at 10:10 pm
Anonymous
Lobsters and Crabs are among the items absolutely prohibited to observant Jews and Christians.
Eating these objects is an ABOMINATION in the EYES of the LORD.
In exactly the same way as it is an abomination for men to have sex with one another.
It says so in THE BIBLE.
WON’T YOU HEATHENS EVER LEARN?????
November 29, 2006 at 1:10 am
Anonymous
Anon2:10
Probably weren’t a lot of prohibited lobsters and crabs encountered wondering around the desert for 40 years. One of those typical Jewish shtick resolutions, perhaps? Christians, BTW, have no prohibition against eating shellfish. In fact, when they used to be prohibited from eating meat on Friday, shellfish and tofu were often the alternate cuisine of choice.
It is also an abomination for men to have sexual relations with losters and crabs, but love can sometimes be unpredictable – and fun.
Afraid you’re right – we’ll NEVER learn.
November 29, 2006 at 3:13 am
Carol Ann
I saw a letter via email from the Gen. Manager. The profit is
not 1%, it is 3%. However, since it cost so much to build, they don’t expect a profit for some time. More later …
November 29, 2006 at 4:39 am
Carol Ann
I posted this on Capt. Buhnes blog the other day regarding the fellow that bought the lobsters, shipped them to BOston to be released in Maine’s Alantic:
I have family that shellfish on the eastcoast and they couldn’t believe this story. “Only in California” … they say. Anytime I go back to visit, I eat lots of lobster, scallops, cod and oysters. I once worked on a fishing boat in high school. My folks even have a baby picture of me in a sink with a lobster.
However, I feel the fellow that bought the lobsters and shipped them back east was very sincere in his actions. If the tank is gone from the COOP, then good. If you want lobster, can’t you just have them shipped from Maine? Before 9-11-01 one could purchase live lobsters in Logan Airport. They had a special box with seaweed to keep it company and dry-ice to keep in cool. The box fit nicely under the seat in front of you. But they are no longer allowed …
Please remove the tank from the Co-op!
November 29, 2006 at 12:47 pm
Anonymous
Why anyone wants to eat sea-going bugs is beyond me. Must be my Jew genes I guess, I just don’t like the taste of crustaceans and mollusks.
November 29, 2006 at 3:38 pm
Anonymous
Take the shell off first Steve.
November 29, 2006 at 6:19 pm
Anonymous
The idea of Hell was incorporated into Judaism with other Zoroastrian concepts when Jews were exiled in Babylon. It percolated within the faith, see Jeremiah 7:31 for example on how Gehenna became synonymous with Hell. The idea of Hell was seized by the apocalyptic Jewish writers like the author of the Book of Enoch which the author of Revelation himself must have read. Jews were no doubt quite familiar with the concept of Hell by the time of Christ even though the orthodox Jewish position was that Sheol or a shadow existence if any. Once introduced into the world the concept of Hell has been impossible to eradicate. Like Heaven.
November 29, 2006 at 6:34 pm
Anonymous
So Carol, by your reasoning, if one is “sincere” in his or her actions, even if you yourself dont support said actions then you support that persons goal? Wishy…meet Washy…
This Tabler guy is the same dude who said that he’d have to side with the lobsters when facing the choice of being able to solve a famine in africa by feeding them lobsters, if it were possible, by saying that he’d just have to let them starve (the humans, not the lobsters)
November 29, 2006 at 6:50 pm
Anonymous
Erik, according to your 5:16 comment, most Jews should limit their swimming to fresh water locales.
November 29, 2006 at 7:04 pm
Eric V. Kirk
I was talking about what they eat. Freshwater crawfish are also out.
November 29, 2006 at 9:39 pm
Anonymous
Southern Baptists proclaim their belief that the Bible is literally true – each and every word of it.
That means that they, and other Christians who believe the Bible is the literal word of God, must not eat lobsters on penalty of their souls.
No lobsters. No crabs. No shrimp. No eels. No clams. No mussels. No oysters.
No exceptions!
Eat a clam,
you be damned!
November 29, 2006 at 10:06 pm
Eric V. Kirk
I believe there is a specific passage in Acts or something where God tells Paul that Christians can eat whatever they want now that the law is fulfilled in the redemption. You also don’t have to make sacrifices, or abide by all the rituals of Leviticus, Dueteronomy, etc.
December 3, 2006 at 2:33 am
Anonymous
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Eric V. Kirk said…
I believe there is a specific passage in Acts or something where God tells Paul that Christians can eat whatever they want now that the law is fulfilled in the redemption. You also don’t have to make sacrifices, or abide by all the rituals of Leviticus, Dueteronomy, etc.
2:06 PM
That’s very nice, Eric, but I hope you don’t think it lets “Bible-Believing” “Literal Word of God” theists off the hook.
Remember, Eric,
If they believe every word is true,
They must The Lobster & Clam eschew!
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December 3, 2006 at 11:15 pm
Rev. Don Spitz
Clayton Waagner was only trying to save babies being murdered by babykilling abortionists, the real terrorists who actually murder thousands of innocent children each day. Clay did not kill or physically harm anyone.
December 23, 2006 at 12:49 am
Anonymous
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Eric V. Kirk said…
I believe there is a specific passage in Acts or something where God tells Paul that Christians can eat whatever they want now that the law is fulfilled in the redemption. You also don’t have to make sacrifices, or abide by all the rituals of Leviticus, Dueteronomy, etc.
2:06 PM
What you write, Dear Eric, cannot be so.
If it were, eating mollusks would be a “Go” -
And if shellfish were acceptable for folks to eat,
Having sex homosexually would be “all reet.”
So if after Death, to Heaven you would go,
Avoid shellfish and gay sex while you are here below.
On the other hand consider, both these bans may be mere Rot –
Mere superstitious relics of some ancient ways of thoght.