According to the ER, some voters filed complaints against Security National for “campaigning” at precincts by wearing their Marina Center T-Shirts in large numbers at the polling locations. And apparently some of the complaints alleged a little more than simply loitering with their shirts on.
But the number of complaints that came in was “unusual,” he said.
“The complaints were that they were blocking access,” McWilliams said. “Grace Baptist Church confirmed they were blocking the entrance and the voters said they were rude and obnoxious.”
There is an unobtrusive way to check rosters, he said.
“If they’re efficient, you have one person reading off who voted from the hanging roster and you have one person marking it off,” McWilliams said. “Sounds to me like they were not efficient.”
As I explained yesterday, they most certainly were not efficient.
He said a “second ancillary issue” was whether SN was advocating for the Marina Center, which would not be allowed.
Even though Marina Center was not technically on the ballot this time, it doesn’t change its integral role in the election mindset of many, McWilliams said.
“The Marina Center project was one of the most vociferous, cantankerous components of the Eureka City Council, Eureka mayor and 4th District Supervisor elections,” he said.
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SN Senior Vice President Brian Morrissey said the company had no one out at the polls “advocating for anything.”
“We certainly offered our employees a chance to participate,” he said. “We were not advocating for any candidate or measure.”
“The Marina Center is not a political issue,” he added. “We did, through our employees and volunteers, friends and family, we did encourage people to vote yesterday.”
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Morrissey said one poll worker had suggested that wearing that sweatshirt was “advocacy.”
“It was interesting to me that while they were saying that wearing a Marina Center sweatshirt was advocacy, I think they even ruled that wearing buttons of candidates was not advocacy.”
Okay, with all due respect to Brian, the Marina Center proposal is very much a political issue. Just ask Fleming who made it the mantlepiece of her campaign.
But with regard to the buttons and/or t-shirts the tolerance at polling locations differs from official to official. About 25 years ago a good friend of mine entered a polling place to vote wearing a Polish Solidarity Union button which looked substantially as follows.

He was asked to remove it, even though Lech Walesa was clearly not on the ballot. On the other hand, in June I went to vote with my son who happened to be wearing his t-shirt which reads “My Grandmother is a Grandmother for Peace” with a mushroom cloud obscured by a universal negation symbol (red circle and slash). My friend’s flashing into mind, I was concerned as we entered the precinct, but none of the workers batted an eye. Apparently there is a bit of subjectivity involved.
Greg Connors e-mailed me a copy of the applicable elections code, but I can’t access that e-mail from here. I’ll update with the text tonight.
As I’ve said I didn’t see anything I felt was improper other than monopolizing the lists for extended periods of time, which I believe was a product of inefficiency rather than malice. However, I did neglect to add one anecdote. Late in the day we were checking over one of the lists when one of the poll workers came over and told us “You have no right to interfere with our work.” We were perplexed, until she explained quite firmly that we were violating election law by writing on the lists. I explained our process and told her that it wasn’t us and jokingly said “it was probably one of the evil empire guys.” Her guard went down immediately when she realized we weren’t Security National. She apologized and went off to find a SN person to yell at.
They clearly didn’t win any points with poll workers.
Update: Well, the local Democrats are urging people who had run-ins to file complaints with the D.A. – and an intro talking about nullification of the election results (we don’t even know what they are yet) and jail sentences. Wow! I didn’t experience any intimidation, but I was only in two places. So I guess the question will be whether this is partisanship or a real concern, and I’m sure you’ll weigh in. I’d like to hear more details. What exactly happened at Grace Baptist Church? Anybody reading this who was there?

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November 9, 2006 at 6:08 pm
Anonymous
You scoffed yesterday at the suggestion that terrorists were celbrating the Democrats victory at the polls. Are you still in denial?
November 9, 2006 at 6:16 pm
Anonymous
Redux is like plethora in that you’re better off not using it.
November 9, 2006 at 6:48 pm
Eric V. Kirk
You scoffed yesterday at the suggestion that terrorists were celbrating the Democrats victory at the polls. Are you still in denial?
Apparently. Do you have a link to a story about celebrating terrorists?
An aside, the Iranian militants celebrated Reagan’s defeat of Carter.
November 9, 2006 at 6:49 pm
Eric V. Kirk
Redux is like plethora in that you’re better off not using it.
But I love both words!
November 9, 2006 at 7:10 pm
Anonymous
SO let me get this straight, you can recall Iranian militants celebrating Reagans defeat of Carter twenty six years ago, but you can’t find any mention of Islamic militants celebrating the Democrats victory today? SUre Erik.
November 9, 2006 at 7:23 pm
Eric V. Kirk
Well, I don’t watch much TV. So tell me who’s doing what and what they’re doing.
But yes, I remember that very clearly. They viewed themselves as the mechanism of Carter’s defeat. In a sense, they were right.
November 9, 2006 at 9:28 pm
Anonymous
Boy those two those two soccer moms in Marina Center sweatshirts were sure rude to me. Can you believe they had the gaul to smile and thank me for voting!
Come on Eric, they weren’t trained assassigns with Larry Glass pins and piercings all over them these were nice people that probably didn’t know what they were doing.
November 9, 2006 at 9:38 pm
Eric V. Kirk
I believe that’s what I’ve said. But you were at one precinct. I was at two.
November 9, 2006 at 10:17 pm
Anonymous
Solidarity = CIA agents and anti-semites
November 9, 2006 at 10:47 pm
Anonymous
You would describe Reagan’s landslide victory as Carter’s defeat. Can you even see how warped your perspective is?
November 9, 2006 at 11:29 pm
Eric V. Kirk
I’m not sure what your point is, however, as far as the militant Iranians were concerned, Carter had been their enemy (for giving refuge to the Shah) and they were happy to see him go.
November 9, 2006 at 11:36 pm
Anonymous
Well Eric – why don’t you tell your friends at the TS (isn’t that Faulk?) that the beasty militant obstructionists were actually nice ladies and grandma’s checking the voting rosters….
And what is it with Lindsay McWilliams…did somebody put something in his koolaid or is he just trying to find five minutes of fame….heard about him giving press conferences on the obstructionist grandma’s….oh god this would be funny if not so pathetic.
November 10, 2006 at 12:11 am
Anonymous
What’s wrong with piercings?
November 10, 2006 at 1:24 am
Anonymous
man Riggs and Connors are leading this group into total disarray. Could you imagine if these people doing the MC get out to vote program where put on the stand. We are talking about people with families and young kids. Nice people.
Local Solutions/Salzman have been doing this same stuff for years and they get a little resistance and cry foul! I saw lots of election pins on voters too, this is riduculous teenager stuff.
They had better think twice before they motivate more moderates and conservatives to get active.
November 10, 2006 at 2:21 am
Anonymous
Too late. The Moderates and Conservatives have woken up.
No longer content to have a job, family and give our free time and money to charities, we are now becoming more politically involved.
Just look at these last local elections for an indicator of future direction.
The pendulum has swung back to the middle. Deal with it.
November 10, 2006 at 3:08 am
Rose
5:24 is right. Lindsey McWilliams is showing his partisanship once again, if those were “Timber Yes Fraud No” or No-Arkleyville t- shirts he would be holding a press conference saying how they had a right to freedom of expression.
November 10, 2006 at 4:27 am
Eric V. Kirk
The pendulum has swung back to the middle. Deal with it.
For the moment.
November 10, 2006 at 5:05 am
mresquan
Yes Rose McWilliams showing his partisanship.Just because you do that crap,doesn’t mean everyone does.This is the same guy who tried to push the county into all touch screen voting machines.See my post in Eric’s first thread.McWilliams was doing what he was asked to do.
November 10, 2006 at 5:57 am
Anonymous
I was at Grace Baptist on Tuesday. They had two polling places and two voter lists hanging by the door in front. For all of us who have done election day activities that converts to 2 people for each list. So 4 folks in front of a single door does create a crowd Unless you take the voter list away from its rightful place, this can’t be helped. My take on this is you have hyper sensitive people — voters and election workers — who can’t maintain any sense of reasonableness and who are the ones who wear their politics on their sleaves. it is sad to see McWilliams become so partisan. Does anybody really think that a couple middle class folks with tee shirts saying Marina Center were going to affect a vote for Mayor of Eureka? This is paranoid activity under the pretense of saving eureka from right wing hordes. Give me a break.
November 10, 2006 at 6:20 am
Eric V. Kirk
They probably didn’t realize that you can actually take the list down and bring it to a table, so long as you don’t hold onto it for inordinate amounts of time. We actually explained that to the Sec Nat people who came to the Muni and we would offer the lists we had been working on to each other before we hung them back up. They had one table and we had another, and we exchanged jokes occasionally. That’s why I’m very curious to hear from these 6 people who left the the polling place because of the SN folk. I wasn’t there all day, and they did switch off people, so I’m not saying it didn’t happen. I just find it very suprising to hear.
November 10, 2006 at 6:35 am
mresquan
The people wearing the marina center shirts weren’t leaving,the people who were wearing the buttons which they were telling them they had to remove were just walking in to vote.You can wear anything you want as long as you leave after you are done.the marina center folks weren’t leaving.Didn’t Mike Jones himself say on the news that the marina center project was the biggest issue for voters?Didn’t Nancy Flemming film commercials solely based on the balloon tract and marina center?Didn’t marina center reps make phone calls about support for the marina center while simultaneosly asking who they were voting for in the board of supes race?
November 10, 2006 at 7:16 am
Eric V. Kirk
I agree that the Marina Center proposal is definitely a political issue if not THE issue of the election. Did Greg’s quoted section deal with electioneering? If not, I’ll look it up when I get back to the office tomorrow so we know what we’re talking about.
November 10, 2006 at 7:18 am
Anonymous
I can totally understand as I was also harassed on Tuesday.
I saw what could only be described as a 60′s hippie-reject stepping out of his ’72 Impala, which hadn’t been washed in at least three years (both the hippie and the Impala).
His ZZ Top beard hung down almost to his beer gut.
I smelled a whiff of marijuana on his clothing along with other extreme scents.
This older man came up to me wearing at least five “slate” pins on his plaid jacket. I mean the whole enchilada of Neely, LaVallee, Glass, Abrams, and Kuhnel. Frightening!
It was an obvious advocacy. At a polling precinct no less.
He said, “Hey” to me, but as I was petrified to say anything in return.
I was in too much fear to vote.
Where can I file a formal complaint with the Humboldt County District Attorney?
Please, I need your help as my rights were violated. We must file a lawsuit against the evil slate immediately.
November 10, 2006 at 7:21 am
Eric V. Kirk
11:18 – Okay, that’s pretty funny!
November 10, 2006 at 5:45 pm
Anonymous
How can mresquan say marina center was a political issue its not on the ballot. And given the campaigning by the Pierson slate none of those opposed the project verbally as it would kill their campaign. All of these candidates danced around the subject. Notice that Larry Glass even stated publically that “if Marina Center is what the people want than that is what I will vote for”. Larry Glass… the leader of CREG never came out against Marina Center in his campaign. Simple fact is the project is popular. There are at least a thousand of these sweatshirts on the streets….Better get used to them and they are alot more tasteful than the Anti Arkleyville shirts and stickers. All this crying is pretty hypocritical.
November 10, 2006 at 6:09 pm
mresquan
I didn’t say it,Mike Jones did.Nancy Fleming campaigned on it and did commercials relating to it.I agree with Larry’s stance, it was an issue, but not the biggest one, a direct contast to Mike Jones’s statement.
November 10, 2006 at 6:21 pm
Eric V. Kirk
There are at least a thousand of these sweatshirts on the streets…
Wouldn’t they be put to better use on people?
November 11, 2006 at 8:16 am
Anonymous
Anon 1:28 pm said:
“Boy those two those two soccer moms in Marina Center sweatshirts were sure rude to me. Can you believe they had the gaul to smile and thank me for voting!
Come on Eric, they weren’t trained assassigns with Larry Glass pins and piercings all over them these were nice people that probably didn’t know what they were doing.”
Come on, Anon, trained assassins wouldn’t wear Larry Glass pins and have piercings, they’d be blending in by wearing Marina-Center-it-was-the biggest-political-issue-of-the-campaign-yesterday-but-today-it-isn’t-according-to-Morrissey sweatshirts to blend in.
It took some gall to write that.
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