The list is up at Daily Kos.
Gutless Democrats saying Aye:
Tom Carper (Del.)
Tim Johnson (S.D.)
Mary Landrieu (La.)
Frank Lautenberg (N.J.)
Bob Menendez (N.J)
Bill Nelson (Fla.)
Ben Nelson (Neb.)
Pryor (Ark.)
Jay Rockefeller (W. Va.)
Ken Salazar (Co.)
Debbie Stabenow (Mich.)
Gutless Connecticut for Liebermans saying Aye:
Joe Lieberman (Conn.)
The only real surprises to me in the list are Lautenberg and Stabenow.
It’s unclear according to this DK poster as to whether the bill even prohibits rape and sodomy as an interrogation tactic. Certainly there’s nothing prohibitting the sustained chaining of prisoners naked with panties over their heads, but that’s not really sexual violence, is it?
The bill also clears up most of the prior violations.
Thing is, I don’t think this will even rate as a campaign issue. We’ve managed to hehumanize the enemy, and nobody thinks it could happen to anyone “innocent.” If it happens to a prisoner he or she must be guilty of something, right?
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September 29, 2006 at 1:29 am
Anonymous
I must have missed your post about our enemies far, far worse behavior (read atrocities.) You are a pathetic nut with an embarassingly unrealistic opinion of yourself. How many times a day did you get your ass kicked in school? Will you take that out on the rest of us until the day you die? Kill the blog, crawl into the box with Bill Kuntsler and never come back.
September 29, 2006 at 2:56 am
Anonymous
6:29 PM does have some valid points, Eric!
Your smug remarks about approving rape and sodomy are over the top.
September 29, 2006 at 3:15 am
Anonymous
Whoa there! Isn’t that just a little strong? There is nothing about sodomy. That is your own perception. We will only torture judgicially. Go USA! And NASCAR!
September 29, 2006 at 4:34 am
Heraldo
Yeah, the rape of 14 year-old Iraqi girls by US soldiers is just so patriotic. Thank gawd we have an opposing party willing to stand up to such outrageous behavior!
September 29, 2006 at 5:09 am
Eric V. Kirk
How many times a day did you get your ass kicked in school?
You keep bringing this up. Are we projecting here?
September 29, 2006 at 5:14 am
Eric V. Kirk
Whoa there! Isn’t that just a little strong? There is nothing about sodomy.
Precisely. Some Senators tried to get wording in to that effect, but the majority refused to consent to anything that would reduce the president’s discretion in defining a wrongful act. It’s only wrongful sodomy if Bush declares it so.
September 29, 2006 at 7:00 am
Anonymous
OH you guys (eric and herald)you are just so funny.
September 29, 2006 at 2:20 pm
Carson Park Ranger
“This is wrong. It is unconstitutional. It is un-American.”
–Vermont Senator Patrick Leahy
September 29, 2006 at 2:27 pm
Anonymous
Hey get over it guys(and gals). Bush won the election. He won two elections! He was voted in. I remember some talk locally about “sour grapes”? Doesn’t that apply to national elections also?
September 29, 2006 at 3:34 pm
Anonymous
Eric, I keep asking how often you got your butt whipped as a child because your condescending tone so strongly resembles the kind of kid we all knew growing up who continually got picked on. That was you, wasn’t it? (Your pathetic attempt at deflecting with talk of projecting is a perfect exmaple of what I’m talking about.)
September 29, 2006 at 4:12 pm
Eric V. Kirk
Well, I didn’t pick on kids, so I wasn’t picked on. Did get in some fights with kids who were abused at home however. Were you one of them?
September 29, 2006 at 4:14 pm
radicalnebraskan.com
You bashing Ben Nelson you lilly livered leftie?
September 29, 2006 at 4:23 pm
Anonymous
Eric, the truth shall set you free.
September 29, 2006 at 4:48 pm
Carson Park Ranger
What does Bush having been “elected” have to do with protests of his refusal to preserve and protect the constitution?
September 29, 2006 at 5:07 pm
Eric V. Kirk
Wouldn’t be the first time I “bashed” Ben Nelson. And my post made no mention of Bush. Defensive are we?
September 29, 2006 at 9:48 pm
Anonymous
Eric, you picked fights with abused children? Where is your compassion, your tolerance for diversity, your humanity?
September 29, 2006 at 9:51 pm
Anonymous
I must be in a fog ….. I have no idea who Ben Nelson is.
I think the bit about Bush being elected is a slam on Eric as he has mentioned several times in the past, when people critisize Gallegos, that he was elected so no whining or no sour grapes.
September 29, 2006 at 10:00 pm
Eric V. Kirk
Ben Nelson is a senator from Nebraska. In the DLC camp.
September 30, 2006 at 2:11 pm
Anonymous
Vote against Eric’s wishes and you are a gutless wonder. Where’s that famous open mind of yours?
September 30, 2006 at 10:10 pm
Eric V. Kirk
No, vote to hand over near total power to the executive branch on a semi-permanent basis is gutless.