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		<title>By: I wasn&#8217;t at the meeting &#171; Sohum Parlance II</title>
		<link>http://kunsoo1024.wordpress.com/2006/09/27/action-for-actions-sake/#comment-49938</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I wasn&#8217;t at the meeting &#171; Sohum Parlance II]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 01:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of public meetings, have to be thought out in terms of specific goals and overall strategy.  And as I&#8217;ve suggested, action should not be about personal gratification as some sort of therapy to feel important.  It [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of public meetings, have to be thought out in terms of specific goals and overall strategy.  And as I&#8217;ve suggested, action should not be about personal gratification as some sort of therapy to feel important.  It [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lewis</title>
		<link>http://kunsoo1024.wordpress.com/2006/09/27/action-for-actions-sake/#comment-4589</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, I hit &#039;em all right. Otherwise, why are you responding?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I hit &#8216;em all right. Otherwise, why are you responding?</p>
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		<title>By: Heraldo</title>
		<link>http://kunsoo1024.wordpress.com/2006/09/27/action-for-actions-sake/#comment-4574</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heraldo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 04:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keep shooting, Steve.  You&#039;re bound to hit a target one of these times.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep shooting, Steve.  You&#8217;re bound to hit a target one of these times.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lewis</title>
		<link>http://kunsoo1024.wordpress.com/2006/09/27/action-for-actions-sake/#comment-4571</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 03:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Thereputic value&quot;, eh? Don&#039;t you have the wrong blog topic? We weren&#039;t talking about the police or Cheri Moore. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And it&#039;s a simple matter, Ken or whoever you are, to cure my delusion that I&#039;m in dialogue with the dev..with Ken Miller by identifying who you are. Transparency in politics: it&#039;s in the Code of the West rule book for straight-shooters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thereputic value&#8221;, eh? Don&#8217;t you have the wrong blog topic? We weren&#8217;t talking about the police or Cheri Moore. </p>
<p>And it&#8217;s a simple matter, Ken or whoever you are, to cure my delusion that I&#8217;m in dialogue with the dev..with Ken Miller by identifying who you are. Transparency in politics: it&#8217;s in the Code of the West rule book for straight-shooters.</p>
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		<title>By: Heraldo</title>
		<link>http://kunsoo1024.wordpress.com/2006/09/27/action-for-actions-sake/#comment-4570</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heraldo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 03:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I realize this delusion that you are talking to Ken must be exciting for you, and I hate to burst your bubble.  But whatever helps you work through your deep hatred of EPIC.  The thereputic value must far exceed actual reality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize this delusion that you are talking to Ken must be exciting for you, and I hate to burst your bubble.  But whatever helps you work through your deep hatred of EPIC.  The thereputic value must far exceed actual reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lewis</title>
		<link>http://kunsoo1024.wordpress.com/2006/09/27/action-for-actions-sake/#comment-4566</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 03:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For three years, 1995 to &#039;98, we took our Bear River Heartlands Plan to enviros at every opportunity we could. I went to EPIC right off the bat when I first made contact with Bear River. We went to every Headwaters meeting organized by enviros. We went to several Headwaters demonstrations. And at no point, either myself, or as a team with Sparky and Wayne Moon did we receive any serious dialogue about our project or any help. And you of all people, Ken, should know how some enviro leaders such as yourself not only disagreed with our Heartlands Plan without discussion, some like you and your Humboldt Watershed Council co-founder Bob Martel, actually went out of your way to sabotage the Bear River Heartlands Plan. Or have you forgotten your work with Chris Peters at 7th Generation? Or Bob&#039;s work getting the Rose Foundation to do what Bob representing EPIC wanted to get them to cancel our Heartlands participation?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Ken, by past experience, there&#039;s not a whole lot of incentive for me to want to talk with progressives as enviros seem to be calling themselves now. I like talking with straight-shooters but Progressive types like you, like Richard Salzman, don&#039;t like such transparency in identifying yourselves or your agenda. Like on these blogs. And then there&#039;s this trail of sleaze following Richard and you, Richard with his false identities, you with inability to confront the public directly and honestly as string puller behind Paul&#039;s singling out Palco for lawsuit. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Add to all the above is the fact that almost everything I read about Progressive political goals in this county makes me want to chase the whole lot of you back to those big cities you came from. Progressives bring big city political style to this county and who needs it? Who needs the divisions one finds in big city politics where the people are used to cutthroat competition and politicians playing dirty pool. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Progs bring community division that only seems to benefit the careers of Progs, and one of their political henchmen, no one else. When Progs stand for something decent that helps build our community, then I will be quite willing to enter into positive dialogue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For three years, 1995 to &#8217;98, we took our Bear River Heartlands Plan to enviros at every opportunity we could. I went to EPIC right off the bat when I first made contact with Bear River. We went to every Headwaters meeting organized by enviros. We went to several Headwaters demonstrations. And at no point, either myself, or as a team with Sparky and Wayne Moon did we receive any serious dialogue about our project or any help. And you of all people, Ken, should know how some enviro leaders such as yourself not only disagreed with our Heartlands Plan without discussion, some like you and your Humboldt Watershed Council co-founder Bob Martel, actually went out of your way to sabotage the Bear River Heartlands Plan. Or have you forgotten your work with Chris Peters at 7th Generation? Or Bob&#8217;s work getting the Rose Foundation to do what Bob representing EPIC wanted to get them to cancel our Heartlands participation?</p>
<p>Ken, by past experience, there&#8217;s not a whole lot of incentive for me to want to talk with progressives as enviros seem to be calling themselves now. I like talking with straight-shooters but Progressive types like you, like Richard Salzman, don&#8217;t like such transparency in identifying yourselves or your agenda. Like on these blogs. And then there&#8217;s this trail of sleaze following Richard and you, Richard with his false identities, you with inability to confront the public directly and honestly as string puller behind Paul&#8217;s singling out Palco for lawsuit. </p>
<p>Add to all the above is the fact that almost everything I read about Progressive political goals in this county makes me want to chase the whole lot of you back to those big cities you came from. Progressives bring big city political style to this county and who needs it? Who needs the divisions one finds in big city politics where the people are used to cutthroat competition and politicians playing dirty pool. </p>
<p>Progs bring community division that only seems to benefit the careers of Progs, and one of their political henchmen, no one else. When Progs stand for something decent that helps build our community, then I will be quite willing to enter into positive dialogue.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lewis</title>
		<link>http://kunsoo1024.wordpress.com/2006/09/27/action-for-actions-sake/#comment-4565</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 02:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ken, would you kindly refer me to that post where I said that I was out of touch with the left? I don&#039;t recall saying that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, would you kindly refer me to that post where I said that I was out of touch with the left? I don&#8217;t recall saying that.</p>
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		<title>By: Heraldo</title>
		<link>http://kunsoo1024.wordpress.com/2006/09/27/action-for-actions-sake/#comment-4561</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heraldo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 23:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It wasn&#039;t a put down, Steve, just an acknowledgement that you already stated here recently that you are out of touch with the left.  However, I see that such acknowledgement will not stop you from giving your &quot;inside&quot; view of what progressives want despite not talking to one since the mid-90&#039;s when some disagreed with your Heartlands project.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t a put down, Steve, just an acknowledgement that you already stated here recently that you are out of touch with the left.  However, I see that such acknowledgement will not stop you from giving your &#8220;inside&#8221; view of what progressives want despite not talking to one since the mid-90&#8242;s when some disagreed with your Heartlands project.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lewis</title>
		<link>http://kunsoo1024.wordpress.com/2006/09/27/action-for-actions-sake/#comment-4544</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ken, if you&#039;ve got something you think I should hear, it would be far more effective if you stopped posting sound-bite put-downs and communicate what you mean. Otherwise, what is the difference from your posts and the other blog graffitti posters intent only on posting their punk one-liners?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, if you&#8217;ve got something you think I should hear, it would be far more effective if you stopped posting sound-bite put-downs and communicate what you mean. Otherwise, what is the difference from your posts and the other blog graffitti posters intent only on posting their punk one-liners?</p>
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		<title>By: Heraldo</title>
		<link>http://kunsoo1024.wordpress.com/2006/09/27/action-for-actions-sake/#comment-4529</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heraldo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve, you admitted here recently that you are out of touch with the left.  So your characterizatons are equally out of touch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, you admitted here recently that you are out of touch with the left.  So your characterizatons are equally out of touch.</p>
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